Can we twist the two ends of the wire together?

In summary, 20 meters of 12 Gauge electrical wire can be used with two 6 Gauge wires if the wires are twisted together. It is not harmful to electronic appliances if done correctly.
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We need 20 meters of 12 Gauge electrical wire but don't have 12 Gauge wire. Can we use two 6 Gauge wires and twist the two ends of the wire together? Is it harmful to electronic appliances? for example, air conditioners

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Welcome to PF. :smile:

6AWG wire is thicker than 12AWG wire, so as long as you can deal with the extra size and stiffness, 6AWG wire will easily carry the current of 12AWG wire. No need to double-up anything.

You should always check your local building codes, but it's likely that 12AWG is listed as the minimum size for the wire for this installation. A lower AWG (bigger wire diameter) should generally be allowed as a more expensive alternative.
 
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Also, looking at your IP address (Mentors have that superpower), it's strange that you are specifying wire size in American Wire Gauge (AWG) instead if SI units...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60228
 
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Welcome to PF. :smile:

6AWG wire is thicker than 12AWG wire, so as long as you can deal with the extra size and stiffness, 6AWG wire will easily carry the current of 12AWG wire. No need to double-up anything.

You should always check your local building codes, but it's likely that 12AWG is listed as the minimum size for the wire for this installation. A lower AWG (bigger wire diameter) should generally be allowed as a more expensive alternative.
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berkeman said:
Also, looking at your IP address (Mentors have that superpower), it's strange that you are specifying wire size in American Wire Gauge (AWG) instead if SI units...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60228
Yes, because I guessed that the respondents live in Western countries.
 
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As this thread will be discoverable by posterity, I feel compelled:
Paralleling conductors to meet capacity requirements is theoretically acceptable. In practice it should be done very carefully - any differences in net resistance will result in uneven current distribution across the multiple conductors. US NEC allows it, but only for relatively large conductors and with length/termination similarity requirements.
 
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Shervan360 said:
Excuse me. I edited my question.
Please don't do that, it is very confusing for anyone trying to read the thread. I've restored your original question; please post a new reply with your clarification on the size of the wires you are asking about. Thank you.

Shervan360 said:
Hello,
We need 20 meters of 12 Gauge electrical wire but don't have 12 Gauge wire. Can we use two 6 Gauge wires and twist the two ends of the wire together? Is it harmful to electronic appliances? for example, air conditioners

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Shervan360 said:
Hello,
We need 20 meters of 12 Gauge electrical wire but don't have 12 Gauge wire. Can we use two 6 Gauge wires and twist the two ends of the wire together? Is it harmful to electronic appliances? for example, air conditioners

[Mentor Note: original question restored; the OP will post a follow up with a correction in a later reply]

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Please see an edited version of my question:

We need 20 meters of 12 Gauge electrical wire but don't have 12 gauge wire. Can we use two 22 Gauge wires and twist the two ends of the wire together? Is it harmful to electronic appliances? for example, air conditioners
 
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Shervan360 said:
We need 20 meters of 12 Gauge electrical wire but don't have 12 gauge wire. Can we use two 22 Gauge wires and twist the two ends of the wire together?
If you are trying to achieve the same resistance and current-carrying capability, no.

The resistance of wire is doubled for every 3 AWG increment (it's a log scale). So to get the same resistance as 12AWG by paralleling two wires, what would their AWG need to be?

https://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/AWG.phtml
 
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The Rule of Thumb is easy to remember. The resistance of the American Wire Gauge values approximately doubles every 3. So to replace AWG 12 you can use two AWG 15 or four AWG 18 or eight AWG 21 or ten AWG 22.

AWG 12 = ten AWG 22
0.00521 = 0.053 / 10 for parallel you divide R
[Ohm/m]
Copper
(20 C,68 F)
 

FAQ: Can we twist the two ends of the wire together?

Is it safe to twist the two ends of the wire together?

Twisting the two ends of a wire together can be safe if done correctly and in the right context. However, it is essential to ensure that the wires are properly insulated and that the connection is secure to prevent short circuits or electrical hazards. For permanent or high-power connections, using appropriate connectors or soldering is recommended.

Will twisting the wire ends together provide a reliable connection?

Twisting the wire ends together can provide a temporary and somewhat reliable connection for low-power applications or quick fixes. However, for long-term reliability and safety, it is better to use proper connectors, soldering, or crimping tools to ensure a stable and secure connection.

Can twisting wires together cause electrical resistance?

Yes, twisting wires together can introduce additional electrical resistance at the connection point, especially if the twist is not tight or if there is corrosion. This added resistance can lead to heat buildup and potential failure of the connection over time. Proper connectors or soldering can minimize this issue.

What materials are suitable for twisting wire ends together?

When twisting wire ends together, it is crucial to use wires made of the same material (e.g., copper with copper) to ensure compatibility and reduce the risk of galvanic corrosion. Additionally, the wires should be of the same gauge to ensure a secure and stable connection.

Are there any alternatives to twisting wire ends together?

Yes, there are several alternatives to twisting wire ends together. These include using wire nuts, crimp connectors, terminal blocks, or soldering the wires together. Each method has its advantages and is suitable for different types of connections and applications, providing more reliable and secure connections compared to simple twisting.

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