Cant work this out, why is it happening,

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The discussion focuses on the equations y(t)=22t-4t² and x(t)=30t-t³, where the user is trying to find x(y) or y(x). The user encounters a discrepancy when calculating x for a specific value of y, leading to different results from the original equations and their derived formula. Key points include the need to correctly cube the denominator when substituting for t³ and the importance of considering both positive and negative roots in the quadratic equation for t. The user is reminded that omitting the negative root may result in missing valid solutions for t. This highlights the necessity of thorough analysis when solving parametric equations.
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cant work this out, why is it happening, please help!

y(t)=22t-4t^{2}
x(t)=30t-t^{3}

find x(y) or y(x)
what i did was say

y-22t+4t^{2}=0

t=\frac{22+\sqrt{484-16y}}{8}=\frac{11+\sqrt{121-4y}}{4}

x=30*\frac{11+\sqrt{121-4y}}{4}-(\frac{11+\sqrt{121-4y}}{4})^{3}


which works for every value for y(t) i plug in except for t=2s
where i get, from the original equations, x=52 y=28
but from my equation when y=28, x=62.125
why is this happening?
 
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Did you remember to cube the 4 in the denominator when you substituted for t^3? x=30IOW, the second term in your value for x should be:
\frac{(11+\sqrt{121-4y})^3}{4^3}

Also, you are omitting the \pm in your value for t, but this is a more minor problem.
 


devanlevin said:
y(t)=22t-4t^{2}
x(t)=30t-t^{3}

find x(y) or y(x)
what i did was say

y-22t+4t^{2}=0

t=\frac{22+\sqrt{484-16y}}{8}=\frac{11+\sqrt{121-4y}}{4}

The equation 4t^2- 22t+ y= 0 has two solutions! Choosing the positive root means that you are assuming that t> 11/4= 2.75 and your formula will be correct only for t> 2.75

x=30*\frac{11+\sqrt{121-4y}}{4}-(\frac{11+\sqrt{121-4y}}{4})^{3}


which works for every value for y(t) i plug in except for t=2s
where i get, from the original equations, x=52 y=28
but from my equation when y=28, x=62.125
why is this happening?
 


thanks, that works perfectly, but why do you say specifically 11/4, because of 11/4 in the fraction or because when the sqrt=0, t=11/4
 


Because your value for t is 11/4 + a positive quantity (i.e., sqrt(121 - 4y)/4 ). By omitting the other solution, you are losing sight of the fact that there is a solution for t < 11/4.
 


thanks
 
The working out suggests first equating ## \sqrt{i} = x + iy ## and suggests that squaring and equating real and imaginary parts of both sides results in ## \sqrt{i} = \pm (1+i)/ \sqrt{2} ## Squaring both sides results in: $$ i = (x + iy)^2 $$ $$ i = x^2 + 2ixy -y^2 $$ equating real parts gives $$ x^2 - y^2 = 0 $$ $$ (x+y)(x-y) = 0 $$ $$ x = \pm y $$ equating imaginary parts gives: $$ i = 2ixy $$ $$ 2xy = 1 $$ I'm not really sure how to proceed from here.
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