Catenary Realism: Calculating Weight of Electric Wire

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The discussion focuses on calculating the weight of an electric wire shaped as a catenary, given its linear mass density of 0.9 kg/m and a span of 30 meters between poles. The mathematical equation for the wire's shape is provided as y=(38.1m)[cosh(x/38.1m)-1]. Participants express confusion about integrating the length of the wire using the formula dl=dx[sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2)], with some uncertainty about how to proceed with the integration. Suggestions include substituting the wire's equation into the length formula and deriving the necessary components for integration. The conversation highlights the challenges of applying hyperbolic functions in this context.
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Homework Statement


when a cable with non-zero mass is connected to a pole at both ends, the shape it assumes is called a catenary.
it can be shown that for an electrical wire whose linear mass density is .9 kg/m strung between poles 30m apart(and making a 22 degree angle at each end) the mathematical equation is
y=(38.1m)[cosh(x/38.1m)-1]
a) an electircal wire of linear mass density .9 kg/m is strung, between poles 30m apart, from west to east on earth. initially the current flowing is zero and therefore the wires shape is that of a catenary. what is the weight of the wire?HINT: the length of the wire(which is not 30m) is found by integrating dl over the catenary. Use the fact the
dl=dx[sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2) in order to have an integration over the x-axis.

It shows a picture with an equation for the wire. y=(38.1m)[cosh(x/38.1m)-1]


Homework Equations


equation for the wire ...y=(38.1m)[cosh(x/38.1m)-1]
length of the wire... dl=dx[sqrt(1+(dy/dx)^2)
He also gave us all of the equations and proofs of hyperbolic functions.

The Attempt at a Solution


I was not sure what to do since i have never done a problem like this. I was neither shown in class how to do anything close to this.
I started with integrating the length of the wire function. I am having problems with the integration though. I am not sure what to do after this or if its even right what I am doing.
 
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Well, what sort of problems are you having with the integration of dl?
 
Should i plug the equation of the wire into the length of the wire equation? Then i would derive the equation for the wire and then integrate the dl...
 
I can change the sqrt[1+(dy/dx)^2] to cosh(dy/dx), correct?
 
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