MHB Challenge problem Find k if x=k is tangent to the curve y=x+√(2).e^[(x+y)/√(2)]

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of k for which the vertical line x=k is tangent to the curve defined by the equation y=x+√2e^[(x+y)/√2]. Participants share their attempts and solutions, with one member highlighting a non-calculus approach. The focus remains on determining the specific value of k that satisfies the tangency condition. The problem invites various methods of solution, emphasizing the challenge of tangency in relation to the given curve. Ultimately, the goal is to establish the correct value of k.
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If the line $x=k$ is tangent to the curve
$$\large y\:=\:x+\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}$$
what is the value of $k$?
 
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Olinguito said:
If the line $x=k$ is tangent to the curve
$$\large y\:=\:x+\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}$$
what is the value of $k$?


Hi Olinguito!

Here is my attempt.
Take the total derivative:
$$dy\:=\:dx+\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}\cdot \frac{dx+dy}{\sqrt2}$$
Substitute $dx=0$ to find where we have a vertical tangent:
$$ dy=\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}\cdot \frac{dy}{\sqrt2}=dy\cdot e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}} \quad\Rightarrow\quad
y=-x$$
Substitute in the original equation:
$$-x\:=\:x+\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+(-x)}{\sqrt2}} \quad\Rightarrow\quad x=-\frac 12\sqrt 2$$
Thus:
$$k=-\frac 12\sqrt 2$$
 
Great work! (Clapping) I have a different solution that does not involve calculus – again I’ll wait and see if anyone else wants to have a go.
 
My solution.

A rotation of 45° clockwise about the origin sends the point $(x,y)$ to the point $(X,Y)$, where
$$\begin{pmatrix}X \\ Y\end{pmatrix}\ =\ \begin{pmatrix}\frac1{\sqrt2} & \frac1{\sqrt2} \\ -\frac1{\sqrt2} & \frac1{\sqrt2}\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}x \\ y\end{pmatrix}\ =\ \begin{pmatrix}\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2} \\ \frac{-x+y}{\sqrt2}\end{pmatrix}.$$
Thus the rotation takes the curve
$$\frac{-x+y}{\sqrt2}\ =\ e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}$$
to the curve
$$Y\ =\ e^X.$$
The 45° tangent to the latter curve is the line $Y=X+1$. Rotating this 45° counterclockwise about the origin gives
$$\frac{-x+y}{\sqrt2}\ =\ \frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}\,+\,1$$
$\implies\ x\ =\ -\dfrac1{\sqrt2}$.
 
Olinguito said:
If the line $x=k$ is tangent to the curve
$$\large y\:=\:x+\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}$$
what is the value of $k$?


Differentiate both sides w.r.t. y and we get:$$\frac{dy}{dy}= \frac{dx}{dy}+\sqrt2\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}\frac{1}{\sqrt 2}(\frac{dx}{dy}+\frac{dy}{dy})$$

And now since x=k is per/lar to the x-axis and tangent to the curve we must have : dx/dy =0 and the above formula becomes:$$1=\,e^{\frac{x+y}{\sqrt2}}\Longrightarrow \frac{x+y}{\sqrt 2}=0\Longrightarrow x=-y$$ e.t.c,e.t.c
 
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