Change in density due to thermal expansion

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The discussion revolves around proving how density changes with thermal expansion, specifically transitioning from the equation Δρ=m/ΔV to Δρ/ρ= -3(ΔL/L). Participants highlight the importance of using the correct volume and length equations, noting that the volume of a cube expands as V=L^3, where L is the length that changes with temperature. There is a consensus that the negative sign in the density change equation is crucial and should be derived correctly through algebraic manipulation. One participant suggests analyzing a cube to clarify the relationships between variables, while another points out potential confusion in the algebra used. The conversation emphasizes the need for precise calculations to accurately reflect the effects of thermal expansion on density.
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Homework Statement


I want to find the mathematical proof to show that the density of an object changes with thermal expansion. My professor showed this in class and it was horribly wrong because he let a few things out. The book I'm reading showed it in 4 steps and left out a lot of the crucial parts. I've been working on this for a few days.

How do I go from, Δρ=m/ΔV, to Δρ/ρ= -3(ΔL/L) ?
I think these are the relevant equations:
V=(1+βΔT)Vi
L=(1+αΔT)Li
V=m/ρ

The Attempt at a Solution


This is how I got it but I don't think it's correct: m.imgur.com/a/ZOfCp
 
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My friend, don't struggle so much for it.

You know that ρ=m/V.
Let ρ°=m/V°.
Then V°= V( 1+γΔT) where γ=3α.
Put that into the equation above, divide by ρ, subtract 1. You have your answer.
 
empty_set said:

Homework Statement


I want to find the mathematical proof to show that the density of an object changes with thermal expansion. My professor showed this in class and it was horribly wrong because he let a few things out. The book I'm reading showed it in 4 steps and left out a lot of the crucial parts. I've been working on this for a few days.

How do I go from, Δρ=m/ΔV, to Δρ/ρ= -3(ΔL/L) ?
I think these are the relevant equations:
V=(1+βΔT)Vi
L=(1+αΔT)Li
V=m/ρ

The Attempt at a Solution


This is how I got it but I don't think it's correct: m.imgur.com/a/ZOfCp
It isn't clear what you did. I suggest doing the analysis on a cube. $$V_0=L_0^3$$
$$V=L^3=[L_0(1+\alpha \Delta T)]^3$$
and neglect non-linear terms in ##\Delta T##.
 
For both of those methods I got Δρ/ρ = 3(ΔL/L). Would the negative be implied or is my algebra wrong?
 
empty_set said:
For both of those methods I got Δρ/ρ = 3(ΔL/L). Would the negative be implied or is my algebra wrong?
There should be a minus sign in this equation.
 
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Your algebra is wrong. My method WILL give a minus sign inherently. Check again. You probably got confused with the ρ and ρ°.
 
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