Complex numbers. Imaginary part

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The discussion revolves around finding the imaginary part of the reciprocal of a complex number, specifically Im(1/z1) where z1 = x + iy. The calculation shows that Im(1/z1) equals -y / (x^2 + y^2). A participant questions whether they can substitute z1 and z2 with their imaginary parts in the equations, but others clarify that this would violate properties of complex numbers. The consensus is that the correct approach is to work with the full expressions of z1 and z2 from the beginning, leading to a clear identification of the real and imaginary parts. Ultimately, the method of directly manipulating the complex numbers yields the correct result.
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z1 = x + iy
z2 = x - iy
(Complex conjugate)

Find:
Im (1/z1)

This is what I have tried to do:

(1) z1*z2 = x^2 + y^2

(2) z2 / (x^2 + y^2) = 1 / z1


The answer is:
-y / (x^2 + y^2) = I am (1 / z1)

So my question is:
Can I change z2 to I am (z2) and z1 to I am (z1) in equation (2)?
 
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They want the coefficient of i or Im(1/z)

i.e \frac{1}{x+iy}

What was/are ur thoughts?
 
oops, read another post and found that it would be wise to post my work. And i reckoned that no-one would have had the time to reply so i just edited my post.

But do my new post clarify anything?
 
No u can't change them that ways. It will defy all the properties of complex number
 
fannemel,
I think your work is correct. Because, if 2 numbers are equal, then their imaginary parts are equal.
 
Yes, fannemel, you are entirely correct. Given z = x + iy, Im(1/z) is indeed -y / (x^2 + y^2).

- Warren
 
Originally posted by chroot
Yes, fannemel, you are entirely correct. Given z = x + iy, Im(1/z) is indeed -y / (x^2 + y^2).

- Warren

His Questions is
So my question is:
Can I change z2 to I am (z2) and z1 to I am (z1) in equation (2)?

i.e.
\frac{Im_{z2}}{x^2 + y^2} = \frac{1}{Im_{z1}}
Which is not true
 
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what about
\frac{Im_{z2}}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]

Would that be any better?

For me that would equal:

{\frac{-y}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]
since Im_{z2} = -y
 
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Yes that is absolutely correct. You get the imaginary part of the reciprocal of z1, not z1
 
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what about
\frac{Im{z_2}}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]
Would that be any better?

For me that would equal:
{\frac{-y}{x^2 + y^2} = I am [\frac{1}{z1}]
since
Im{z_2} = -y

That is true because x^2+ y^2 is a real number.
In general you cannot get the imaginary part of a number computed by a formula just by replacing each number in the formula by its imaginary part.

It would be far better for you to replace z_1 and z_2 by x+iy and x-iy right from the start:

\frac{1}{z_1}= \frac{1}{x+iy}. Now multiply both numerator and denominator by x- iy to get \frac{(1)(x- iy)}{(x+iy)(x-iy)}= \frac{x- iy}{x^2+ y^2}= \(\frac{x}{x^2+y^2}\)-\(\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}\)i so that it is obvious that the real part is \frac{x}{x^2+y^2} and the imaginary part is \frac{-y}{x^2+y^2}.
 

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