Correct statement about thermodynamics process

In summary: I now know that the heat of process A is greater than the heat of process B. In summary, process A absorbs more heat than process B.
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Homework Statement
An ideal gas is taken through two cycles shown in Figure a and b. In Figure a, the cycle consists of process A (solid line) and adiabatic process (dash line). In figure b, the cycle consists of process B (solid line) and isothermal process (dash line). Which of the following statements is true?
A) The heat of both processes A and B are released;
B) The heat of both processes A and B are absorbed;
C) The heat of process A is released, while the heat of process B is absorbed;
D) The heat of process A is absorbed, while the heat of process B is released.
Relevant Equations
ΔU = Q + W
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I know process B absorbs heat but I can't determine the heat of process A.

In adiabatic process, Q = 0 but process A is not adiabatic. I only know both W and ΔU will be negative for process A but how to know Q?

Thanks
 
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What is the value of ##\Delta U## when a gas undergoes a thermodynamic cycle, starting and ending in exactly the same thermodynamic state?
 
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Chestermiller said:
What is the value of ##\Delta U## when a gas undergoes a thermodynamic cycle, starting and ending in exactly the same thermodynamic state?
ΔU will be zero since there is no change in temperature. But sorry I don't understand the direction of the hint since process A does not start and end in exactly same thermodynamic state.

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For process A, I think they mean the entire cycle, not just the solid line. I think it also includes the dashed line.
 
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Chestermiller said:
For process A, I think they mean the entire cycle, not just the solid line. I think it also includes the dashed line.
I think they mean the solid line. Please see below.
songoku said:
ΔU will be zero since there is no change in temperature. But sorry I don't understand the direction of the hint since process A does not start and end in exactly same thermodynamic state.
For process A, write the first law for the dashed and solid line:

##\Delta U_A^{\text{solid}}=Q_A^{\text{solid}}+W_A^{\text{solid}}##

##\Delta U_A^{\text{dashed}}=Q_A^{\text{dashed}}+W_A^{\text{dashed}}##

You know that ##\Delta U_A^{\text{solid}}=\Delta U_A^{\text{dashed}}##

What else do you know?
How do ##W_A^{\text{solid}}## and ##W_A^{\text{dashed}}## compare?

Repeat along similar lines with process B asking yourself the same questions.
 
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I understand.

Thank you very much for the help and explanation Chestermiller and kuruman
 

FAQ: Correct statement about thermodynamics process

What is a thermodynamic process?

A thermodynamic process is a series of changes in the state of a thermodynamic system, involving changes in temperature, pressure, volume, or other state variables. These processes can be categorized as isothermal, adiabatic, isobaric, or isochoric, depending on which state variable is held constant.

What is the difference between reversible and irreversible processes?

A reversible process is an idealized process that happens infinitely slowly, allowing the system to remain in thermodynamic equilibrium at all times. An irreversible process, on the other hand, occurs at a finite rate and involves dissipative factors like friction, turbulence, and unrestrained expansion, which prevent the system from being in equilibrium.

What is an isothermal process?

An isothermal process is a thermodynamic process in which the temperature of the system remains constant. This means that any heat added to the system is used to do work, and the internal energy of the system does not change.

What is an adiabatic process?

An adiabatic process is a thermodynamic process in which no heat is exchanged with the surroundings. In this type of process, any change in internal energy is due to work done on or by the system, leading to changes in temperature and pressure.

What is the significance of the first law of thermodynamics in a thermodynamic process?

The first law of thermodynamics, also known as the law of energy conservation, states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant. It implies that the change in internal energy of a system is equal to the heat added to the system minus the work done by the system. This principle is fundamental in analyzing and understanding thermodynamic processes.

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