Definition of SO(n): O(n) & SL(n, \mathbb{R}) Intersection

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In summary: Both methods yield the same set.In summary, there are four definitions given for various sets of matrices over the real numbers, including special constructions such as the determinant and transpose. The source also defines a new set, SO(n), as the intersection of two previously defined sets. While there may have been some initial confusion about the definition, it is now clear that both methods yield equivalent sets.
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Four definitions:
1) Define \(\displaystyle M_n( \mathbb{R} )\) as the set of all n x n matrices over \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}\).

2) Define \(\displaystyle O(n) = \{ A \in M_n ( \mathbb{R} ) | A A^T = I \}\)

3) Define \(\displaystyle GL(n, \mathbb{R} ) = \{ A \in M_n( \mathbb{R} ) | \det A \neq 0 \}\)

4) Define \(\displaystyle SL(n, \mathbb{R} ) = \{ A \in GL(n, \mathbb{R} ) | \det A = 1 \}\)

(I presume these are all standard, but the way the definitions are made plays into my question.)

My source now defines \(\displaystyle SO(n) = SL(n, \mathbb{R} ) \cap O(n)\)

As typical I was able to sort this out as I typed it. My question was that wouldn't it make more sense to define \(\displaystyle SO(n) = \{ A \in O(n) | \det A = 1 \}\) but now I see that both definitions are equivalent.

So no worries!

-Dan
 
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Four definitions:
1) Define \(\displaystyle M_n( \mathbb{R} )\) as the set of all n x n matrices over \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}\).

2) Define \(\displaystyle O(n) = \{ A \in M_n ( \mathbb{R} ) | A A^T = I \}\)

3) Define \(\displaystyle GL(n, \mathbb{R} ) = \{ A \in M_n( \mathbb{R} ) | \det A \neq 0 \}\)

4) Define \(\displaystyle SL(n, \mathbb{R} ) = \{ A \in GL(n, \mathbb{R} ) | \det A = 1 \}\)

(I presume these are all standard, but the way the definitions are made plays into my question.)

My source now defines \(\displaystyle SO(n) = SL(n, \mathbb{R} ) \cap O(n)\)

As typical I was able to sort this out as I typed it. My question was that wouldn't it make more sense to define \(\displaystyle SO(n) = \{ A \in O(n) | \det A = 1 \}\) but now I see that both definitions are equivalent.

So no worries!

-Dan

This takes advantage of a special construction of English: the juxtaposition of two adjectives means both apply. That is saying "the tall English dude" is the same as saying:

The dude is English, and the dude is tall. In Mathese:

$\text{Dude} \in \{\text{tall dudes}\} \cap \{\text{English dudes}\} \iff \{\text{Dude} \in \{\text{English dudes}\}: \text{Dude} \in \{\text{tall dudes}\}\}$

In the case at hand: "special" means having determinant 1, and "orthogonal" means having the transpose as the inverse. The corresponding noun to "dude" in my example above is "linear (group)" (the group of UNITS of the ring $M_n(\Bbb R)$).

This is quite common, for example one may specify the set of all real numbers which are positive integers. While it is natural to interpret this as: first restrict to integers, and then restrict to positive integers, it is also possible to take the intersection of the positive reals with the integers.
 

FAQ: Definition of SO(n): O(n) & SL(n, \mathbb{R}) Intersection

What is the definition of SO(n)?

SO(n) refers to the special orthogonal group, which is a group of matrices that preserve a specific inner product on a vector space of n dimensions. This means that the matrix multiplied by its transpose will result in the identity matrix, and the determinant of the matrix will be equal to 1.

What is the difference between O(n) and SO(n)?

O(n) is the orthogonal group, which includes all matrices that preserve any inner product on a vector space of n dimensions. This means that the matrix multiplied by its transpose will result in the identity matrix, but the determinant can be either 1 or -1. SO(n) is a subgroup of O(n) that specifically includes matrices with a determinant of 1.

What does SL(n, \mathbb{R}) stand for?

SL(n, \mathbb{R}) stands for the special linear group, which includes all matrices with a determinant of 1. This is a subgroup of the general linear group, GL(n, \mathbb{R}), which includes all invertible matrices.

How do SO(n) and SL(n, \mathbb{R}) intersect?

The intersection of SO(n) and SL(n, \mathbb{R}) is the set of matrices that have a determinant of 1 and preserve a specific inner product on a vector space of n dimensions. In other words, the matrices in this intersection will have a determinant of 1 and will also be orthogonal.

What is the significance of SO(n) and SL(n, \mathbb{R}) intersection?

The intersection of SO(n) and SL(n, \mathbb{R}) is important in various fields of mathematics, including geometry and group theory. It also has applications in physics and computer science, particularly in computer graphics and robotics. The elements in this intersection have properties that make them useful in these areas, such as preserving distances and angles, and having a determinant of 1 which allows for easier calculations.

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