Difference in work done to move magnet

In summary, the discussion focuses on the difference in force and work required when separating a neodymium magnet from a steel plate by sliding it versus pulling it axially. The conclusion is that while the work done remains constant in both cases, the force exerted may be lower when sliding the magnet off the edge of the metal due to the analogy of climbing a hill. The question is then posed to find a quantitative difference between these two processes.
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akashverma
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If a neodymium magnet sticks over a steel plate and you want to separate them, it is advised to apply force such that the magnet slips over steel plate.
So I was just wondering what would be the quantified decrement of this force as compared to the case when force is applied axially to separate them.
 
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Force or work?

I believe the work should be the same in both cases. The force might be lower when sliding the magnet off the edge of the metal. I don't fancy doing the maths but I think there is an analogy with climbing a hill. The hill has a fixed height so as far as work is concerned it should be the same whatever route you take up the hill. However if you zig zag back and forth as you go up the force would be lower than taking the direct route to the top.
 
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When climbing a hill work done remains constant as we do work against gravity which is a conservative force and for conservative forces work done doesn't depends on path but depends on displacement which is same for both steep climbing and zig-zag climbing.
In this case Force is different which is evident from the smoothness in separating metal and magnet through sliding and also the displacement in both the cases would be different in direction which gives different work done.
And my question is to find out a quantitative difference between these two processes.
 

FAQ: Difference in work done to move magnet

What is the difference between work done to move a magnet and work done to move an object?

The work done to move a magnet refers to the energy required to move a magnet from one location to another, while the work done to move an object refers to the energy required to move any other object from one location to another. The difference lies in the fact that a magnet has its own magnetic field and can interact with other objects through that field, while other objects do not have this property.

What factors affect the work done to move a magnet?

The work done to move a magnet can be affected by various factors such as the strength of the magnetic field, the distance the magnet is being moved, the orientation of the magnet, and the presence of other magnetic or non-magnetic objects in the vicinity.

How does the work done to move a magnet change with distance?

The work done to move a magnet follows an inverse square law, meaning that as the distance between the magnet and the object it is being moved towards increases, the work done decreases. This is because the strength of the magnetic field decreases with distance, resulting in less energy required to move the magnet.

Can the work done to move a magnet be negative?

Yes, the work done to move a magnet can be negative if the magnet is moved in the opposite direction of the magnetic field. This means that the energy used to move the magnet is actually being returned to the system, resulting in a negative value.

How does the work done to move a magnet differ in different materials?

The work done to move a magnet can vary in different materials due to their magnetic properties. Some materials, such as iron, are strongly attracted to magnets and require more energy to move the magnet, while others, such as copper, are weakly attracted and require less energy. Non-magnetic materials, such as plastic, do not interact with magnetic fields and would not require any work to move a magnet.

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