Diffraction -- Calculate the interference lost orders due to diffraction

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The discussion focuses on calculating lost orders due to diffraction in a slit configuration. The user successfully calculated the diffraction term for single slits but initially struggled with identifying lost interference maxima. They determined that configurations with five smaller slits in a column exhibit lost orders, while other configurations do not. The calculations reveal that the diffraction from larger slits does not introduce additional zeros, and the interference maxima align with the diffraction zeros. The user acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the differential term from smaller slits, which clarified their results.
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Two 1D grating grids are given with period 5a, every slit of them are composed with 5 smaller and square slits with area a**2 with different spatial distribution . I have to calculate interference lost orders due to diffraction for the line q=0.
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I have calculated the diffraction part for each one of the slits but I am not getting any lost order.
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This took me a while to figure out what they are asking, but I think I have it: ## \\ ## In one dimension you need to calculate the diffraction term across the ##x ## direction for the far field case: ## I(\theta)=| \int\limits_{single \, slit}E_o \, t(x) e^{i \phi(x)} \, dx|^2 ## where ## t(x) ## is the weighting function for the different parts of the slit, and ## \phi(x)=\frac{2 \pi x \sin{\theta}}{\lambda}##. ## \\ ## (##E_o ## is an arbitrary constant).## \\ ## ## I(\theta) ## is likely to have some zeros at places where ## m \lambda=(5a) \sin{\theta} ## which are the ## \theta's ## for the interference peaks for integer ## m ##. If the diffraction integral gives zero for an integer ## m ##, this is a lost interference maximum. ## \\ ## Note: You should be able to designate any part of the slit as the origin ## x=0 ##. Choosing a different location for the origin will just introduce a factor ## e^{i \phi_o} ##, which will be converted to a unity factor when you take ## I(\theta)= |E(\theta)|^2 ##. ## \\ ## And I think I solved it correctly=I didn't try all the cases, but a slit that has 5 squares in a column gives me a bunch of lost orders (I'm not going to give you the complete answer), but I don't think any other configuration gives any lost orders. (I haven't checked my result very carefully=I'll leave that part to you).
 
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the weighted function is t(x,y)=cte and using unit intensity (I(0)=1) for both of the larger slits( composed of 5 smaller 1's) I am getting for the diffraction on the x-axis the following exp. for the 1st slit (that looks like a plus sign) Itotal_1=I(0)(3+2cos(kpa))^2 (k=2pi/lambda) , this term has no zeros, the smallest value it gets to is when cos(kpa)=-1, so there won't be any value of sin(theta) where an interference maxima overlaps with a zero of diffaction. Same fot the second slit.
 
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I worked the 2nd case in detail. (I did not work the first case in detail). If the OP would show their calculations in detail for the second case, I could verify them. It would appear these two cases may have no lost orders, As I previously mentioned, they should include the case of 5 squares in a column, which does have lost orders. The problem would be much more educational if they did that.
 
thanks man, i´ve figured what i was doing it wrong. I was forgetting the differential term given by the smaller slits, i was expecting some type of special diffraction effect with added extra zeros for the line y=0 due to the larger slit composed by 5 smaller ones. In this case, it only modulates the diffraction changing its form.For the line y=0 or q=0 we have:
Idiifraction_small_slit(q=0)=I0*sin(kpa/2)/kpa/2 , p=sin(theta);k=2pi/lambda [this part has its zeros ], Idiff_large_slit=Idiffraction_small_slit*(3+2cos (kpa))^2[ This part corresponds to the whole system of 5 smaller slits and it dosent add any extra zeros, the smallet it can get is when cos(kpa)=-1 (if have used the difference in phases using the centre slit of the as the origin) ] , I_grating_grid_1d_[5a_period]=I_diff_large_slit*interference_factor. So in this The zeros of diffraction that overlaps with the maximas of interference are the same as only having grating_grid with square slits of area a^2 of period 5a.
 
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