Discover the Relationship Between Mass and Charge in a Mass Spectrometer

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In a mass spectrometer, the mass to charge ratio (m/q) is derived from the relationship m/q = (B²r²)/(2ΔV). The discussion begins with the force equation F = qvBsinθ and recognizes that ions move in a circular path, leading to the equation mv²/r = qvBsinθ. Rearranging provides m/q = Br/v, and substituting v = E/B results in m/q = B²r/E. The confusion arises regarding the factor of 2 in the potential difference term, suggesting a need for clarification on the configuration of the speed selector and the plate separation. Overall, the derivation highlights the complexities involved in understanding mass spectrometer mechanics.
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Edit: Sorry I just realized this should be in Introductory Physics. Can a moderator could please move it?

Homework Statement



Show that in a mass spectrometer, the mass to charge ratio, m/q is equal to:

m/q = (B2r2)/(2\DeltaV)

Homework Equations



F = qvBsin\theta

The Attempt at a Solution



I started with F = qvBsin\theta

An ion moves in a circular path in a spectrometer, so F = mv2/r

mv2/r = qvBsin\theta

Rearranging and simplifying gets:

m/q = Br/v, and since v = E/B I get m/q = B2r/E

E = V/r and my final result is:

m/q = (B2r2)/\DeltaV

So I'm wondering where I lost the 2 in the Potential Difference term. Any help is appreciated.
 
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More information should have been given!
v = E/B implies a speed selector, usually a separate section of the apparatus whose B is not the same as the one causing the circular motion.
E = V/r is only true if the speed selector has a pair of parallel plates with separation r = radius of curvature. Very strange! Maybe the plate separation is r/2 or something.
 
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