Disney World PF Gathering and Tips for Disney Mania!

[mathwonk]

here is some stuff i found on the web, but i realize you may be aware of such thigns;

here is an original d duck cartoon
http://www.jibjab.com/jokebox/jokebox/jibjab/id/376149/jokeid/93788
here is a picture of the cover of "lost in the andes", a book i owned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Duck#Early_developmenthere is a reprint of a scrooge comic for sale:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0944599001/?tag=pfamazon01-20here is a website for disney comics worldwide:
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/and a catalog of disney comics
http://www.indyworld.com/ic/disney.htmlthis one reproduces an actual page of a d duck comic. i had a panel from this one on my office door last semester, with "mightiest geometer in the universe." pasted in the panel showing d duck with the bump on his head,

http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/html/dd_15_2_n.html

 

[mathwonk]

ok i found one disney comic from 1955, but i do not know how to post it here. hints?

 

[mathwonk]

ok here is a page that dipslays small pictures of many of my old books.

http://www.seriesam.com/barks/bibliousacmwdc100.html

 

[mathwonk]

i recall eating dinner at the alfredos restaurant in epcot with my father in law, as a poor young married. when the meal was over i shiwed off my italian to the waiter by asking for our bill "posso avere il conto per favore?"

i did not realize i had asked the bill be given to me, not us, until he handed it to me. i swiftly and very uncooly handed it oevr to my father in law.

this confused the waiter so much he did not know where his tip was coming from and stood along the route we all had to follow out, as i handed it to him.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

A confused Zapper singing: "...M I T, K E Y, M O U S E..."

 

[hypatia]

Way to go ZZ on your win! That is just such a perfect photo.

 

[ZapperZ]

These are the not-so-good news related to Disney from this past week.

1. A 13-year old girl accused a man of http://www.wftv.com/news/10672770/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news" her on a Disney cruise ship. My question in things like this is that, if this really happened (we still have to give this person the benefit of the doubt till he has his day in court), what in the world made him think he can get away with it? I mean, it's not as if he could just run away!

2. ABC network http://www.mickeynews.com/News/DisplayPressRelease.asp_Q_id_E_167Blog" of a blogger to take down his website due to excerpts of noxious comments made on an ABC radio talk show. I really doubt that this came down from the Disney corporate offices, but someone from ABC has turned this into a publicity nightmare instead of it being extremely non-consequential. Corporate lawyers should be forced to use this as a case study where non-doing something would have been a lot more prefarable. This whole incident is just plain dumb.

3. Disney reached an http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1406776.php" with the family of a woman from Spain who died a couple of months later after riding the Indiana Jones attraction at Disneyland. I don't know what to make of this, because Disney seldom back down on lawsuits. I have been on this attraction this past June, and it is a FUN ride, very much like the Dinasour ride at Animal Kingdom. However, while it is intense, it is all similar to a simulated ride. So it's not as if you're on a roller coaster or anything like that.

Still, with all of this, there is one very good news of the week. Most of us in the States, especially in the NY area, are just entralled by the story of the man who saved another man's life who fell onto the tracks of an incoming subway train in Manhattan. The Disney CEO has invited the man and his family to spend a http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070104/subway_hero_070104/20070104?hub=World" . This guy is a true hero. Not many of us would have done what he did. He may had just saved a life, but in doing that, he has affected more people than he could have imagined.

Zz.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Still, with all of this, there is one very good news of the week. Most of us in the States, especially in the NY area, are just entralled by the story of the man who saved another man's life who fell onto the tracks of an incoming subway train in Manhattan. The Disney CEO has invited the man and his family to spend a http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070104/subway_hero_070104/20070104?hub=World" . This guy is a true hero. Not many of us would have done what he did. He may had just saved a life, but in doing that, he has affected more people than he could have imagined.

Zz.

When I first heard about this, my first thought was that I wouldn't have known if one could survive by lying low. Later I heard Autrey say that in retrospect, it probably wasn't such a good idea! I suspect that later he learned how dangerous a move that really was, and it was much more dangerous than he realized.

Nonetheless, by every definition the guy is a true hero.

 

[MeJennifer]

Still, with all of this, there is one very good news of the week. Most of us in the States, especially in the NY area, are just entralled by the story of the man who saved another man's life who fell onto the tracks of an incoming subway train in Manhattan. The Disney CEO has invited the man and his family to spend a http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070104/subway_hero_070104/20070104?hub=World" . This guy is a true hero. Not many of us would have done what he did. He may had just saved a life, but in doing that, he has affected more people than he could have imagined.

Wow, a true hero indeed!
Read this:

He eyed the trough between the rails before jumping on top of the teenager, Mr. Autrey said, and relied on his experience as a construction worker used to "confined spaces" to calculate -- in split seconds -- that "maybe we have enough clearance."

Before jumping, he said he made sure his daughters were okay and asked two women to hold their hands.

The southbound train grazed the top of his hat. He said he and Mr. Hollopeter remained there for 20 minutes while MTA workers shut off the third rail.

"What I did was something any and every New Yorker should do: If you see someone in distress do the right thing -- help out."

If we are looking for the next James Bond...

 

[ZapperZ]

Tigger is in trouble again!

What is it with the cast members that play Tigger at WDW?

An earlier accusation of "molestation" by Tigger was dismissed. However, now comes another accusation that Tigger http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/custom/tourism/orl-mtigger0707jan07,0,3025315.story?coll=orl-business-headlines-tourism" a teen (not by the same cast member).

This is rather hard to believe because other than the fact that it is in front of people, the cast member has got to know that these things usually are videotaped. Only a moron would try doing anything inappropriate under these circumstances.

Oh well, we shall see how this turns out.

Zz.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Perhaps Tigger has issues.

There are so many jokes in this...

Never trust a guy in stripes.
Instead of going postal, he went totally Tigger.
Is there trouble at Pooh Corner?
Now Tigger is claiming that as a cub he was abused by Christopher Robin...

 

[Moonbear]

What is it with the cast members that play Tigger at WDW?

An earlier accusation of "molestation" by Tigger was dismissed. However, now comes another accusation that Tigger http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/custom/tourism/orl-mtigger0707jan07,0,3025315.story?coll=orl-business-headlines-tourism" a teen (not by the same cast member).

This is rather hard to believe because other than the fact that it is in front of people, the cast member has got to know that these things usually are videotaped. Only a moron would try doing anything inappropriate under these circumstances.

Oh well, we shall see how this turns out.

Zz.

I saw a tape of it on the news this morning, and I'm just not sure what happened. It actually looks more like Tigger might have just been trying to goof around, as Tigger's do, and slipped, or the teen slipped. There's just this really quick, awkward movement before Tigger's paw smacks the kid in the face that looks like the kid was falling in toward Tigger and Tigger may have accidentally cuffed him in the face instead of catching him (I can imagine it's hard to be coordinated in those costumes if you need to react quickly).

 

[ZapperZ]

Looks like we are starting to hear the story from http://www.wftv.com/news/10697738/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news" of it.

I will make a rather uninformed guess at this. I seriously doubt that the character will smack someone, especially in front of obvious witnesses and when you are the center of attraction. So I have a doubt regarding the "victim's" story. However, if it was the guest who initiated it, it is also wrong for the character to retaliate. That's a Disney no-no. The character handler should have stepped in, that's what he/she is there for.

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

A baby white rhino is the http://www.laughingplace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=1682" in 2007 at Disney's Animal Kingdom. The baby was named Tom, and the 6th white rhino born at that theme park.

Zz.

 

[Moonbear]

Tom? Tom the rhino? That doesn't seem like a very good name for a rhino, not unless he's going to have a companion named Jerry anyway.

 

[ZapperZ]

OK, so what could be more magical than a fairy tale wedding at Walt Disney World? A surprise fairy tale wedding!

If you cry at weddings, this is going to be a 3-hanky story. It is THAT good.

A man and his future wife were planning a wedding at WDW, but decided to make it a surprise wedding for all their invited guests. They decided to use his 40th birthday as an excuse to get all their friends and relatives to WDW. He http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=115611" he had planned to us before the event. So a bunch of us were just giddy with anticipation to hear what happened.

The wedding was scheduled for Dec. 16, and it wasn't until a couple of days ago that we heard back from the now-married husband of what happened. IT WAS MAGICAL, SIMPLY MAGICAL! You can read it in that thread that I linked. I almost bawled when the surprise was finally announced to their guests on the bus on their way to the wedding pavillion. It was just too much!

Still, the whole plan almost crumbled due to the very friendly cast members working the front desk. It is customary for them to welcome you and usually inquire if they're part of the "wedding party", since they would know usually the reason for the visit if it was all arranged as part of a package. Luckily, the bride was around when it happened the first time, and managed to alert to groom. So he had to go to ALL of the Disney resorts where the guests will be arriving to alert the managers not to let the cat out of the bag. Phew!

This has got to be THE most romantic and exciting wedding stories I've ever heard. Oh how I wish I could have been there. Now, my only hope left for something like this is to plan for Moonbie's wedding.



Zz.

 

[Moonbear]

This has got to be THE most romantic and exciting wedding stories I've ever heard. Oh how I wish I could have been there. Now, my only hope left for something like this is to plan for Moonbie's wedding.

Since I want a big pool party for my wedding, I think that can be accomplished at a Disney resort. I have to find a willing groom (the wedding photos just don't look right if he's hog-tied and handcuffed to the bride...that should be saved for the honeymoon), but you're more than welcome to do the wedding planning for me if it's at Disney.

 

[ZapperZ]

Since I want a big pool party for my wedding, I think that can be accomplished at a Disney resort. I have to find a willing groom (the wedding photos just don't look right if he's hog-tied and handcuffed to the bride...that should be saved for the honeymoon),

What if he's unconscious? I could easily arrange that! And I'll hire a ventriloquist as the best man so that it'll appear that he said "I do".

See? I have it all covered!



And a pool party? We can have your wedding at Blizzard Beach or Typhoon Lagoon!

Zz.

 

[Moonbear]

What if he's unconscious? I could easily arrange that! And I'll hire a ventriloquist as the best man so that it'll appear that he said "I do".

See? I have it all covered!

You should have gone into business as a wedding planner. You have such a knack for it.

And a pool party? We can have your wedding at Blizzard Beach or Typhoon Lagoon!

Zz.

Woo hoo! That's the idea! I can provide bottles of waterproof sunscreen as wedding favors. Is there a place there for a band and dancing after dark?(Nobody dances in the daylight, and there has to be dancing at my wedding...play in the pool all day and dance all night...all the guests better get in shape so they can last for the whole party!)

 

[ZapperZ]

You should have gone into business as a wedding planner. You have such a knack for it.

I still might! I'll couple it with my private Disney tour for hire business. :)

Woo hoo! That's the idea! I can provide bottles of waterproof sunscreen as wedding favors. Is there a place there for a band and dancing after dark?(Nobody dances in the daylight, and there has to be dancing at my wedding...play in the pool all day and dance all night...all the guests better get in shape so they can last for the whole party!)

There is definitely a lot of space for a band AND for partying/dancing. One of the GayDays event during the week is a private "Wet Party" at Typhoon Lagoon in the evening. I've never been to that one, but from all the pictures that I've seen, you certainly can have enough space of people dancing in their speedos!

:)

<er... come to think of it, I know of many people who shouldn't be dancing in their speedos... Ugh! Now I have to flush those images out of my head!>

Zz.

 

[Moonbear]

I've never been to that one, but from all the pictures that I've seen, you certainly can have enough space of people dancing in their speedos!

Okay, we'll definitely have to put a dress code on the invitations...no speedos! I may want to restrict women to one-piece suits too since there are some relatives of mine who just might try to squeeze into a bikini against better judgement.

 

[ZapperZ]

In the "Happy New Year" photo contest, I had another picture that I was considering of using. It too was a picture of the 7 Dwarfs with Snow White. Unfortunately, while I think I could have gotten away with it, it only had 6 of the Dwarfs in the picture (but I'm sure Gokul would have argued that it was only 5 1/2 Dwarfs). So I didn't use it.

So here was the picture. It is from the SpectroMagic parade at The Magic Kingdom.

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

A salute to the lovable Tigger, who many now seem to believe is falsely accused of assulting that teen.

Zz.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

who many now seem to believe is falsely accused of assulting that teen...

Zz.

Are you kidding? Just look at those beady little eyes. I say guilty!

 

[ZapperZ]

Are you kidding? Just look at those beady little eyes. I say guilty!

<ZapperZ smacks Ivan with a very large boson>

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

Now who said that following the Disney thread isn't educational? Well, how about this then?

Andy Dobson of Princeton has published a paper in the Proceeding of the National Academy of Sciences (no less) on "http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/26/14041" ". If you're read the paper, you might have a very obscure trivia regarding Disney. In particular, he mentioned this:

Rabies is the only pathogen to play a role in a Disney movie. While defending the children who costar in the 1957 film against a rabid coyote, the canine hero of "Old Yeller" is bitten and acquires the infection. Eventually, Old Yeller becomes rabid and moves on to the great casting kennel in the sky, and a younger understudy then helps to placate the mortified children.

Fancy that!

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

Tigger For Parent of the Year

Here's an http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53766" on why Tigger should be parent of the year! So take that!



Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

Top 10 Luxury Attractions at Disney World

This article tells you how to do http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16654113/" - for a fee, of course! If are short in time, but have lots of money, this is the way to do it.

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

Disney's Destino to premier 60 years later!

OK, show of hands. How many were aware that Disney and Savador Dali collaborated on a project? C'mon! Don't be shy!

Well, I didn't either. So it came as a surprise to hear that they worked on a 6-http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2554812,00.html" movie that was unfinished, and only now have been competed to have its premier 60 years later. The movie, of course, is set in Dali's surreal world.

This is weird enough to make it interesting.

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

A major buzz among Disney fans

There is major buzz going through many Disney fan sites lately. What could it possibly be? Is it a new attraction? Is it the 3rd Gate at Disneyland Resort? Is it a new building at Walt Disney World? Is it a new Disney-Pixar movie? What could possibly make all of these Disney fanatics go giddy?

Believe it or not, all of this excitement is due to one show at The Magic Kingdom, and it is what goes IN the show in particular that is causing all this commotion. In Dream Along With Mickey, the new show at the Cinderella Castle, Disney debut http://www.laughingplace.com/Lotion-View-357.asp" . These are character heads that have articulate expression, movable mouths, and eyes that open and shut. Previously, all Disney character heads have fixed expressions.

This new addition was highly unexpected, and is a major surprise, certainly to Disney fans. It is drawing rave reviews. So far, these articulated character heads are only being used in this show, and there are no plans to use them in the character Meet and Greet session.

Zz.

 

[mathwonk]

The great children's book illustrator Kai Nielsen, whose wonderfully magical book East of the Sun and West of the Moon is a rare collectors item today, collaborated with Disney on Fantasia.

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/nielsen.htm

Very inferior reprints are available today, but the original book with the high quality illustrations tipped in is mostly in libraries.

There is a reason those Disney movies were classics, they involved some of the most talented people in the world.

 

[Moonbear]

This new addition was highly unexpected, and is a major surprise, certainly to Disney fans. It is drawing rave reviews. So far, these articulated character heads are only being used in this show, and there are no plans to use them in the character Meet and Greet session.

Sounds cool. The show is probably a test to see how well a few really well trained cast members can handle them and find out if there are any problems with them before using them for character Meet and Greets. It probably takes more time to learn how to operate them too, so they can't just send them all out at once.

I guess it also depends on who operates the extra features. Is it something the costume wearer has control of, or do you need another person with a remote control nearby? If you need a "spotter" to operate the features remotely, then in a Meet and Greet crowd, you might not be able to see the character well enough or know what the guests are saying to react appropriately. It might be more doable in the character greeting areas that are more controlled, like that house where Mickey and Minnie hang out where they control that only a few people enter the room at a time for photos to keep them from getting mobbed.

 

[ZapperZ]

Sounds cool. The show is probably a test to see how well a few really well trained cast members can handle them and find out if there are any problems with them before using them for character Meet and Greets. It probably takes more time to learn how to operate them too, so they can't just send them all out at once.

The problem with using them for a Meet and Greet is that with movable mouths, maybe the guests will not expect them to talk, something that they cannot do now because each character has a distinct voice and vocal style. So that might be the thing that would stop them from using these character heads.

I guess it also depends on who operates the extra features. Is it something the costume wearer has control of, or do you need another person with a remote control nearby? If you need a "spotter" to operate the features remotely, then in a Meet and Greet crowd, you might not be able to see the character well enough or know what the guests are saying to react appropriately. It might be more doable in the character greeting areas that are more controlled, like that house where Mickey and Minnie hang out where they control that only a few people enter the room at a time for photos to keep them from getting mobbed.

One of the http://www.thedisneyblog.com/tdb/2007/01/articulated_cha.html" is reporting that the cast members who are wearing these heads are the ones operating all of these features. It appears that these things move via certain gestures of various parts of the character's motion. So these are really "puppets", not animatronics.

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

This is a rather terrific historical account of http://www.mickeynews.com/Columns/DisplayColumn.asp_Q_id_E_767" attraction at the Magic Kingdom. It is the ONLY Walt Disney's original at Walt Disney World that he actually had a hand in building (he died before the official opening of WDW so didn't oversee the building of the theme park personally).

I have to admit, though, that I am not THAT fond of this attraction. I mainly use it to sit down and rest. A couple of times, I've actually nodded off in a quick nap during the show. At least I didn't snore...

Zz.

 

[ZapperZ]

Y'know, Disney can also invade into serious, scholarly studies. I'm not kidding you! :)

For example, this was from the AAAS meeting in 2003, as reported in Science 28 February 2003:

Even impossible memories can be fabricated from suggestions, researchers reported at the AAAS annual meeting last week. And such memories can create physiological responses that are indistinguishable from those elicited by remembering real trauma.

Many people think their memories of dramatic events, such as where they were when they heard that President Kennedy was shot, are very reliable. But that doesn't appear to be true. To demonstrate the power of suggestion over such memories, Elizabeth Loftus of the University of California, Irvine, and colleagues implanted a memory into people who had witnessed a bombing in Russia. They interviewed volunteers twice, 2.5 years and 3 years after the bombing. During the second interview, the team posed the suggestive question: "When you were taking part in our study, you mentioned a wounded animal. Could you tell us about it?" Almost 13% of the people recalled, incorrectly, that they had seen an injured pet.

Critics have argued that such false-memory experiments might call up real experiences--perhaps some subjects did see bleeding animals. So Loftus implanted a clearly impossible memory: a person in a Bugs Bunny outfit shaking hands and hugging children at Disneyland. "Bugs is a Warner Brothers character. He wouldn't be allowed on Disney premises," Loftus says. Her team recruited volunteers who had been to Disneyland earlier in their lives. They were shown an advertisement for Disneyland with pictures of Bugs and text describing a trip to Disneyland that included meeting the wascally wabbit. Weeks later, 36% of the volunteers who had seen the ads vividly recalled that they had seen Bugs Bunny in real life: They shook his hand or even hugged him, they reported.

"Her work points out to people that, in terms of our own subjective experiences, what we think is crystal-clear imagery could be inaccurate at the very deepest level," says psychologist Michelle Leichtman of the University of New Hampshire, Durham. A study of people who claim to have been abducted by space aliens helped psychologist Richard McNally of Harvard University determine how deep imagined events can go. His team recorded 10 volunteers' abduction stories. Volunteers listened to audiotape clips of their stories while the researchers measured heart rate, sweating, and facial muscle tension. All stress responses were elevated, to the point that they mirrored those of people remembering Vietnam combat events or childhood sexual abuse. More than half of the alien abductees exhibited some symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder.

The response to trauma "is driven by emotional beliefs, whether accurate or not," McNally reported. "If you sincerely think you were being abducted by aliens, you were." The result "is troubling," says Leichtman. "It underscores the similarities between true and false memories at an even more profound level" than researchers generally think.

Zz.