Dissolved oxygen related to redox potential

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The discussion centers on the effects of dissolved oxygen in water used in iron boilers and its relationship to redox potential. Removing dissolved oxygen lowers the redox potential, which inhibits the oxidation of iron (Fe) from Fe+2 to Fe+3. This is due to oxygen being a strong oxidizer, and its presence limits the amount of iron that can oxidize. The conversation also explores the possibility of reversing the oxidation process, specifically whether Fe+3 can be reduced back to Fe+2 in an anaerobic environment or through electrolysis. It is noted that in a low redox potential solution, Fe2O3 could potentially convert to Fe3O4 by interacting with water, as the system seeks to reach equilibrium. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding stoichiometry and redox reactions in these processes.
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I have read a little bit about some industries deaerating water used in boilers made of iron to prevent them from becoming damaged.

I think this is because removing dissolved oxygen from the water lowers its redox potential. I think that this works because once the redox potential of the surrounding environment is lowered past a certain point it is no longer possible for Fe+2 to oxidize into Fe+3.
Am I right about any of this?

I was also wondering about the reverse reaction, I have read a little bit about using electrolysis for this. If I had some other method of lowering the redox potential of the system far enough would the Fe+3 go back to Fe+2?

I'm sure I shouldn't be I'm sort of thinking of this as a parallel to melting point/boiling point.
 
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Rexmundi said:
I think this is because removing dissolved oxygen from the water lowers its redox potential.

I don't think potential plays important role here. Oxygen is an oxidizer strong enough to work on iron even in very low concentrations. It can be easily calculated from Nernst equation, at the moment I am only referring to my intuition. Call it an educated guess.

However, if you take a look at the reaction stoichiometry, it becomes obvious that amount of iron oxidized is limited by the amount of oxygen present. Less oxygen present, less iron oxidized.

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Okay I see the oxygen as a limiting reactant idea now and that makes sense, it's simpler than I was making it out to be.

I'll try to restate the second part of my question.

If I had some Fe203 in an anaerobic solution could it change to Fe304?
Could it take an electron from H20 somehow?
Would it help if the redox potential of the solution was very low?

Sorry if this is nonsense, I have not taken a chemistry course in a long time and do not really know how these things work.
 
The answer is not straightforward, but simple in that it would attempt to reach equilibrium:
Yes, it could steal things from water (O, H or electrons and break up an H2O)
A solution of Fe2O3 would change some to Fe3O4 as needed to reach equilibrium

Your boiler situation is a little different, you are oxidizing zero-valent iron (Fe) to other states (both Fe2+ and Fe3+) depending on redox potential.
 
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