Distribution of charge in hydrogen atom

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The discussion revolves around the charge distribution in a hydrogen atom, modeled with a positive point charge at the center and a negative charge distributed according to the equation p=Ce^(-2r/R). Participants are trying to determine the constant C using the principle of electrical neutrality, emphasizing the need to integrate the charge distribution over a three-dimensional volume. There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the charge density and how to apply integration properly. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the wavefunction's modulus square in relation to charge density. Overall, the thread underscores the complexity of the problem and the necessity for clear mathematical formulation in physics.
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Suppose the hydrogen atom consists of a positive point charge (+e), located in the center of the atom, which is surrounded by a negative charge (-e), distributed in the space around it.

The space distribution of the negative charge changes according to the law p=Ce^(−2r/R), where C is a constant, r is the distance from the center of the atom, and R is Bohr's radius.

Find the value of the constant C by using the electrical neutrality of the atom.

I don't think I understand the charge distribution very well. I tried integrating the total negative charge of the sphere ( atom ), since I know it's equal to ( -e ).
 
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Please show us what you did when you integrated the distribution.

Edit: the model is really, really bad by the way, but for the sake of the problem, let us assume it is not.
 
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Sorry about the format. I don't know if the last line makes sense.
In the way I understand it the negative charge in a point should be p = Ce^(-2r/R). However I think i am wrong. Thank you in advance.
 
You cannot do it like an integral in one dimension, the distribution is three dimensional.

Peter Velkov said:
Ce(−2r/R)
I see now that you really meant e^(-2r/R) with e being the base of the natural logarithm and not multiplication by the charge e. This is normally denoted by ^ or if you do not find that symbol by writing out "exp" for "exponential function".
 
Yes, it's three dimensional, for a three dimensional point. But can't I integrate it for the whole radius, and then use the standard volume formula?
Furthermore, I know Bohr's radius is the mean of the orbit, but can it be used to derive the radius of the atom.
 
Peter Velkov said:
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Sorry about the format. I don't know if the last line makes sense.
In the way I understand it the negative charge in a point should be p = Ce^(-2r/R). However I think i am wrong. Thank you in advance.
The modulus square of a wavefunction, ##p(r)## in your notation, describes the probability density of the electron and it has a dimension of inverse volume. You can therefore build the charge density ##\rho(r)## by multiplying ##p(r)## with the electron charge ##e##, so ##\rho(r) = e p(r)##. The total charge is then just the integral of this quantity over all space, not just until certain radius like you did there.
 
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