Do greenhouse gases need to be polar?

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Greenhouse gases do not need to be polar molecules to absorb energy and heat up; instead, their ability to absorb infrared radiation is crucial. Non-polar diatomic molecules cannot undergo pure vibrational transitions due to being dipole-forbidden, while molecules with three or more atoms can have asymmetric vibrational modes that are active in the infrared spectrum. The discussion raises the question of whether heating a gas can occur through a single absorption line, suggesting that the power from such a mechanism may be insufficient to cause a measurable temperature rise. The inquiry reflects a deeper exploration of the mechanisms behind greenhouse gas heating. Understanding these principles is essential for grasping the complexities of atmospheric science.
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Hi,

I have been wondering if greenhouse gases always need to be polar molecules. Can a gas also absorb energy, and heat up, without being polar?
 
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Obviously no, since CO2 and CH4 are not a polar molecules :smile:

What is important is that the molecule be active in the infra-red, which corresponds to vibrational excitation. This precludes non-polar diatomic molecules, for which pure vibrational transitions are dipole-forbidden, but for molecules of 3 and more atoms, there are asymmetric vibrational modes that are active in the infra-red.
 
Ah, thanks, and apologies for my ignorance. I guess what I wanted to know was can you heat up a gas through an absorption line?
 
I don't know the definitive answer to this but I suspect that there could be insufficient power in the limited bandwidth of a well single absorption line (even starting with 1kW/m2 from the Sun) to give a measurable temperature rise from that mechanism.
Someone may well tell me different.
 
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