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Tests are rigged in themselves to those who test well.
Ebolamonk3y said:Tests are rigged in themselves to those who test well.
First you might try explaining how an IQ test is bias. Have you ever taken a Progressive Matrices IQ test? I don't know how in the world you can call that test bias. Whether racial, gender, educational, it is not bias.Humbucker said:I'm in the 130 range on every IQ test that I've ever taken.They're all wrong.It's a biased and frankly stupid test for people who think they're smart.
Bull****.
My grandfather left school when he was 9 years old,raised 7 kids and made his own way in this world.That man was almost illiterate and taught me way more about life than any test ever did.It's all subjective man.
If I hear some pompous,holier-than-thou mouth talking about their IQ like it means something,they may get smacked in the face with my fist.
Are you responding to somebody else's post? 'Cause you're certainly not responding to mine. So I'm curious. Who exactly are you responding to here? Or did you simply get confused and thought I asked you what you did for a living?Humbucker said:Ok,you asked BlackVision.Here are some answers.School huh?Did well then.
Don't owe one single penny for my education.Academic scholarships and making fat money.I'll get to that in a minute.
Complex situations?How about flying a Pave Low helicopter for 5 years.Special Forces aircraft pilot.Real world deployments with bad things happening.Complex enough?
A job?I'm holding a check in my hand for $126,000.That's for one transaction.Going to make at least 9 more this year for about the same amount.You asked and got answered.I don't see how a test made any difference in my life.Not one little bit.Means nothing!
BlackVision said:First you might try explaining how an IQ test is bias.
This would be accurate if the word biased was replaced by the phrase "culturally loaded." As Arthur Jensen pointed out in his 1980 book Bias in Mental Testing, cultural loading does not equate with bias. If a measuring instrument is biased, it should be possible to say along what axis, in which direction along that axis, and to what degree the bias obtains.Njorl said:All IQ tests are biased, the question is to what degree. Some are very biased, testing only learning, and correlating with other tests.
that's ridiculous... i got 157 in less than 20 min., with english not being my mother language... I've taken the mensa test and gotten 136... either they rate the iq differently without saying it or it's complete bull****...IooqXpooI said:That test is stupid...It's ceiling is 168...I still don't understand why I took it...
It compared me to Einstein/Newton(or was that Da Vinci? anyways, I took it a long time ago)...
Anyway, go to iqtest.com, and take the test. That is a logic test, which ACTUALLY tests your intellingence. I got a 162.
Humbucker said:I took that internet test and don't believe it represents a damn thing.My score was 9.I have to believe that my shoe size is larger than my IQ.![]()
on what planet??Tigers2B1 said:Mensa doesn't give you the numerical result after you test. In fact there is no true "Mensa Test." There ARE two tests given by Mensa however -- both are standardized and widely used cognitive ability tests. The two tests are given over a three-hour period. The cognitive ability tests used by Mensa are the Wonderlic and the California Test of Mental Maturity. NOW -- being a sports fan, I happen to know that the Wonderlic is not only used by Mensa, not only used by business when deciding appropriate employee training- it's also used to test incoming NFL rookies. Dang! I'll link the related article and Wonderlic NFL results, by position and maybe player, if anyone is interested. No - QBs ain't the "smartest." Anyway - in regards to Mensa - a "Mensa testee" either scores in the top 2% on those standardized tests or he/she doesn't. No 135 - no 105 ---
VDare published some articles mentioning the the Wonderlic NFL results.Tigers2B1 said:I'll link the related article and Wonderlic NFL results, by position and maybe player, if anyone is interested. No - QBs ain't the "smartest."
balkan said:on what planet??![]()
sorry...must be different in america... in denmark you get your numerical score. maybe you forgot to ask for it?
recon said:Q51. Which one of the following five is least like the other four?
Horse - Zebra - Deer - Moose - Eland
stefan80302 said:wow, does iq testing really matter.
how can it be accurate when it was written by humans to test other humans.
is it not bias since creation.
dekoi said:Most prosperous people have low IQ's anyway
selfAdjoint said:For everyone from poor up to almost rich, there is a strong correlation between IQ and income. In fact IQ predicts income better than papa's income or social class; that research was reported in The Bell Curve.
For the really rich, the correlation fails; they get their money in other ways than by being smarter than the next guy.
stefan80302 said:Not to be rude but you would not say that unless you are rich and are trying to keep your, I'm just born better, dream alive. Today intelligence plays no role in success, JFK had an IQ of 119, John Gotti had an IQ of 110, and don't even make me say Bush's IQ. I think today more than any other time there is plenty of evidence of how unimportant IQ is, what is important for success ,however, are motivation, connections, and sometimes luck.
---Everybody thinks that Albert Einstein's IQ was very high, but this is definately not the case, his adult IQ was just above 160. He was definately a genius, but this was not primarily due to his IQ, but his amazing level on transcendental thinking. Transcendental (= raised, sublime) thinking means that he can raise his thinking (i.e. the paths it takes) above the ordinary level. Basically it means that he was extremely creative and imaginative. An IQ score is a combination of brainspeed and brainpower. You have a certain amount of time to take an IQ test, but if you don't mind the time and just make the test and take more time than allowed, you can score up to 30 points higher. So Albert Einstein's IQ was just above 160 (which is also very high) but he takes his time and he raises his thinking to an amazing level and then you can compare him to somebody with an IQ of 200. So Einstein had a lot of brainpower but his brainspeed compared to brainpower was low.
This would take into consideration everyone below, at, or above the poverty line. It would also take into consideration different cultures, each with different emphasis on education.Orion1 said:Intelligence Quotient: (IQ)
. a number indicating level of intelligence, obtained by multiplying the mental age by 100 and dividing by the chronological age.
[tex]I_q = \frac{100 A_m}{A_c}[/tex]
[tex]A_m = \frac{I_q A_c}{100}[/tex]
stefan80302 said:Not to be rude but you would not say that unless you are rich and are trying to keep your, I'm just born better, dream alive. Today intelligence plays no role in success, JFK had an IQ of 119, John Gotti had an IQ of 110, and don't even make me say Bush's IQ. I think today more than any other time there is plenty of evidence of how unimportant IQ is, what is important for success ,however, are motivation, connections, and sometimes luck.