Does Penrose theorem about Space-time forbid 'Strings'

In summary, Penrose proved that a more than 4-dimensional spacetime would be unstable.. does this mean that String theory is completely wrong?? (since this only works on 11 dimensions).
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Klaus_Hoffmann
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Penrose proved that a more than 4-dimensional spacetime would be unstable.. does this mean that String theory is completely wrong?? (since this only works on 11 dimensions).

Also without offending nobody's beliefs .. .what're the proofs for the existence of String theory ??, its math elegance it is not enough, and it's some kind similar to 'creationism' if there are no proof or counterproof to support a scientific theory we shouldn't support it (i believe more in LQG or Regge calculus rather than strings-made universe hope not to annoy anyone)
 
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Klaus_Hoffmann said:
Penrose proved that a more than 4-dimensional spacetime would be unstable.. does this mean that String theory is completely wrong?? (since this only works on 11 dimensions).
1. Can you specify more precisely in what sense more than 4dimesions are unstable?

2. Let us assume that Penrose is correct. At best, this would prove that string theory (which lives in 10 dimensions, not 11, but this is not really important here) is unstable. However, being unstable is not the same thing as being wrong. For example, this could mean that FLAT spacetime in 10 dimensions is unstable. Then, if 6 extra dimensions are compactified, this could provide stability. But before speculating, we need first to have the answer to the question 1.
 
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Demystifier said:
1. Can you specify more precisely in what sense more than 4dimesions are unstable?

Actually, Penrose's claim is not specifically about sapcetimes that have dimension greater than 4.

Penrose says that the Penrose-Hawking singularity theorem is vaild in (1+n)-dimensional spacetimes, not just in (1+3)-dimensional spacetimes. He says that although the spacetimes considered for string theory don't satisfy the conditions of the hypothesis of theorem, "generic" small perturbations of sting spacetimes can produce spacetimes that do satisfy the conditions of the theorem. Therefore, Penrose concludes that something catastropic must happen in these spacetimes, either in the compactified part, or in the "everyday" 1+3 part.

Penrose admits that these conclusions are classical, but he doesn't think that quantum theory can save the day.

I have no idea how these speculations have been received.
 

FAQ: Does Penrose theorem about Space-time forbid 'Strings'

1. What is Penrose theorem about Space-time?

Penrose theorem is a mathematical proof that states that any spatially closed universe, that is, a universe that follows the laws of general relativity, must have a singularity in its past or future.

2. How does Penrose theorem relate to strings?

Penrose theorem does not directly relate to strings, as it is a proof about the behavior of space-time in a closed universe. However, some theories in string theory attempt to reconcile Penrose theorem with the possibility of a non-singular universe.

3. Does Penrose theorem forbid the existence of strings?

No, Penrose theorem does not forbid the existence of strings. It only suggests that a closed universe must have a singularity, but it does not specify what form that singularity may take.

4. Can strings exist in a universe with a singularity?

Yes, strings can exist in a universe with a singularity. In fact, some theories in string theory propose that strings can help explain the nature of singularities in the universe.

5. Is there any evidence to support or refute Penrose theorem?

Currently, there is no definitive evidence to support or refute Penrose theorem. However, the theory has been widely accepted by the scientific community and is supported by various mathematical proofs and observations of the universe.

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