Electric fields and de broglie wavelength

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The discussion addresses the confusion surrounding the application of wavelength concepts to electromagnetic fields, particularly in relation to momentum and mass. It clarifies that momentum is sufficient for discussing wavelengths, but calculating the wavelength of a DC electric field is complex. The de Broglie wavelength concept is deemed crude, as it requires solving mathematical problems for specific wave functions, typically sine waves. In the case of DC fields, boundary conditions prevent the formation of sine wave solutions, leading to a constant field with an infinite wavelength. Thus, the concept of wavelength becomes inappropriate for DC fields with boundaries.
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I'm confused as to how the concept that 'things' have a wavelength applies to an electromagnetic field, which has momentum, but not mass: what 'things' have wavelengths? Are there other criteria, other than whether something has mass or momentum, that must be fufilled before talking about something having a wavelength?
 
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ascky said:
Are there other criteria, other than whether something has mass or momentum, that must be fufilled before talking about something having a wavelength?

Momentum is sufficient.
 
So how would one go about calculating the wavelength of, say, a dc electric field?
 
ascky said:
So how would one go about calculating the wavelength of, say, a dc electric field?
The description in terms of de Broglie wavelength is - you might imagine - rather crude. In reality, you have to solve a mathematical problem to find an entire wave function, and the concept of wavelength only applies to very special kinds of solutions, namely sine waves. This is not going to be always possible (in fact, it is only possible in empty space, when the things are propagating freely, and even then not all solutions have to take on that aspect).
Your DC field is such an example: the DC field will be satisfying boundary conditions (conductors at certain potentials, for instance) which will make things such that a sine wave is not going to be possible as a solution.
If you want to put a DC field in empty space, you have only one option: a constant field. Such a field has of course a wavelength equal to infinity. To all other DC fields, with boundaries, the concept of "wavelength" itself becomes inappropriate because the solution is not a sine function.
 
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