Electrical energy stored by charged concentric spherical shells

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electrical energy stored by charged concentric spherical shells. The initial approach involves determining the charge distribution on the shells and calculating the potential energy using the formula for a shell capacitor. A correction is noted regarding the application of the shell theorem, emphasizing that it applies to potential but not to energy. A more detailed method is provided using Gauss's law to derive the electric potential and field outside the outer shell, leading to an integral calculation for the energy stored. The final energy expression combines contributions from both the region between the shells and outside the outer shell.
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I thought up of this problem myself, so I do not have solutions. I would appreciate if you could correct my approach to solving this problem.

Firstly, the charge induced on the inner surface of shell B is -q, and so the charge on the outer surface of shell B is Q+q.

The energy stored can be calculated as the potential energy stored by a shell capacitor of charge q, as given by (q^2/8pi e0)(1/a - 1/b). Then, we have to add the potential energy stored in the E-field outside the 2 shells, which is (1/4pi e0) (Q+q)/b.

Does my approach look right?
 
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I think the method is okay, but I wonder if the potential energy outside the second sphere should instead be $$U = \frac{(Q+q)^2}{8 \pi \varepsilon_0 b}$$
 
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etotheipi said:
I think the method is okay, but I wonder if the potential energy outside the second sphere should instead be $$U = \frac{(Q+q)^2}{8 \pi \varepsilon_0 b}$$

You are right. I forgot that the shell theorem does not apply to energy and potential.
 
Potential energy no, but it does apply to potential! To get the above you just need to write the energy of a second spherical capacitor from radius ##b## to radius infinity (exactly the same way as you calculated the first contribution to the energy, between the shells). But if you're interested, you can also find the energy another way!

Take, for example, just the region outside the outer shell. From Gauss you see that the electric potential for ##r \in [b, \infty)## is just ##\phi(r) = \frac{k(Q+q)}{r}##, i.e. the same as for a point charge ##Q + q## at the origin, due to the spherical symmetry. The associated electric field is ##\mathbf{E} = \frac{k(Q+q)}{r^2} \mathbf{e}_r##. And the norm-squared of that vector is ##|\mathbf{E}|^2 = \frac{k^2(Q+q)^2}{r^4}##

So denote by ##\Omega \subseteq \mathbb{R}^3## the set of points with radii ##r \in [b, \infty)##, then given the volume element ##dV = r^2 dr do## in spherical coordinates you have$$
\begin{align*}

U_2 &= \frac{\varepsilon_0}{2} \int_{\Omega} |\mathbf{E}|^2 dV \\ \\

&= \frac{\varepsilon_0 k^2 (Q+q)^2}{2} \int_{0}^{4\pi} \int_{b}^{\infty} r^{-2} dr do = \frac{\varepsilon_0 k^2 (Q+q)^2}{2} \frac{4\pi}{b} = \frac{(Q+q)^2}{8\pi \varepsilon_0 b}

\end{align*}
$$Of course, you could also do the same integral in the region between the two shells, which would give you the electric energy ##U_1##. And the sum ##U_1 + U_2## gives you what you're after.
 
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