Electrostatic Self-energy of an arbitrary spherically symmetric charge density

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The discussion revolves around finding an expression for the electrostatic self-energy of a spherically symmetric charge density distribution, p(r), without specific assumptions about its characteristics. Participants suggest using Gauss's law to derive the electric field E(r), then integrating it to find the electric potential φ(r), and finally calculating the self-energy U using the formula U=(1/2)∫ρφ d^3r. There is confusion regarding the terminology, particularly the meaning of φ and whether electrostatic self-energy equates to potential. The course is Engineering Physics II at Saint Louis University, and the textbook used is "Physics" Volume 2 by Halliday, Resnick, and Krane, though the professor relies on his own notes.
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Find an expression for the electrostatic self-energy of an arbitrary spherically symmetric charge density distribution p(r). You may not assume that p(r) represents any point charge, or that it is constant, or that it is piecewise constant, or that it does or does not cut off at any finite radius r. your expression must cover all possibilities. your expression may include an integral or integrals which cannot be evaluated without knowing the specific form of p(r).


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I had no idea how to start this problem because i couldn't figure out what my professor meant by electrostatic self-energy of an arbitrary spherically symmetric charge density distribution.

Does anyone know a professor by the name is Ian Redmount?
 
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1. Find E(r) by using Gauss's law.
2. Integrate E to find\phi(r).
3. U=(1/2)\int\rho\phi d^3 r in Gasussian units.
This gives U as a triple integral integral involving rho twice.
What course is this and what is the text/
 
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The course is Engineering Physics II at Saint Louis University in St. Louis MO.
The text is "Physics" Volume 2 by Halliday, Resnick and Krane.
Our professor doesn't use the text though, he teaches from his own notes which I believe are a few millennium old.

Thanks for the help I'll work on it right now and see if I can do exactly what you suggested but I may have more questions on the method but Thank You, I really appreciate it.
 
Meir Achuz said:
1. Find E(r) by using Gauss's law.
2. Integrate E to find\phi(r).
3. U=(1/2)\int\rho\phi d^3 r in Gasussian units.
This gives U as a triple integral integral involving rho twice.
What course is this and what is the text/

Is the electrostatic self-energy the potential? What is phi in your equation? Sorry, I am confused in how you derived that equation.
 
harshey said:
Is the electrostatic self-energy the potential? What is phi in your equation? Sorry, I am confused in how you derived that equation.
The phi in my equation is the potential, given by integrating E.dr.
The electrostatic self-energy of a point charge is U= q*phi.
For charged sphere, it is given by my third equation.
I think that, on a Haliday and Resnick level,
there are too many simple things not given in the text to understand a problem on this level.
 
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