Energy Conservation in Pendulum Swing: Finding v for Complete Circle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimum speed v of a bullet required for a pendulum bob to complete a vertical circle after being struck. The conservation of momentum and energy principles are applied, with the bullet initially having speed v and emerging at speed v/2. At the top of the swing, the bob's kinetic energy is nearly zero, leading to the equation 1/2MV^2 = Mg(2l) for energy conservation. Participants clarify that V (the bob's velocity) and v (the bullet's initial velocity) are different variables, and suggest using substitution to solve the equations. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between momentum and energy to find the solution.
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"A bullet of mass m and speed v passes completely through a pendulum bob of mass M. The bullet emerges with a speed of v/2. The pendulum bob is suspended by a stiff rod of length l and negligable mass.
A) What is the minimum value of v such that the pendulum bob will barely swing through a complete verticle circle?
Energy is conserved for the bob-Earth system between bottom and top of swing. At the top, the stiff rod is in compression and the bob nearly at rest.

I'm not really sure how to do this problem, but i think that at the top, it would barely swing through because it is nearly at rest, but I am not sure what to do with that.
 

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Since it is the minimum speed at which it will make it over, you calculate v such that the kinetic energy at the top is zero (no velocity)

then:

mv = m(v/2) + MV (conservation of momentum)

1/2MV^2 = Mg(2l)

that should be enough to solve it.
 
I undestand the formula's but I'm really bad at physics so I'm not sure if i know what to do next. I never understood how to combine these two formulas.
Can I solve for V in the conservation of momentum equation and then sub that into the conservation of energy equation? Are V and v supposed to be different or the same?
 
V and v are different, one is velocity of the bullet, the big V is that of the bob. yes, you have 2 equations and 2 unknowns (v and V) so solve one and substitute as you suggested
 
Thank you for all your help
 
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