Exploring Differential Equations: Solving for Limits and Discontinuities

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In summary, substituting vy for x in the right hand side of OP's first equation gives: \displaystyle \frac{k y-40\sqrt{v^2y^2+y^2}}{k vy} which implies y v = x.
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Homework Statement


[tex]\frac{dx}{dy}=\frac{k y-40\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}{k x} [/tex]

Given the parameters conditions (0,0),(1000,0)

Homework Equations


substitution [tex] v=\frac{x}{y}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\frac{dv}{\frac{1}{v}-v-\frac{40}{k v}\sqrt{v^2+1}}=\frac{dy}{y}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{-1}{2}\ln({40\sqrt{v^2+1}+k+v^2k})=\ln{(y)}+c[/tex]

[tex]k(\frac{x^2}{y^2}-1)+40\sqrt{1+\frac{x^2}{y^2}}=cy^{-2}[/tex]

Sooo how could I possibly use my limits? I end up with a discontinuity at y=0 or is there some horrible mistake in my solution?
 
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That first Y should just be a y
 
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It looks a little easier when I tried it. Sorry it's 5 months late!

You made the replacement, which you can do with "homogeneous differential equations" were the function of (x,y) can be expressed in terms of (v=y/x, usually) but you subbed (v=x/y).

v=x/y, which implies

y v = x, which implies

dx = v dy + y dv, and

dx/dy = v + y dv/dx

Now, we already have dx/dy, which is given as your first equation.

I replace x/y with v, and I got

[tex]dx/dy = v + y(dv/dy)=v-\frac{40\sqrt{1-(\frac{1}{v})^2}}{k}[/tex]

and the v's cancel, so it might be a bit easier to solve.
 
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JDoolin said:
It looks a little easier when I tried it. Sorry it's 5 months late!

You made the replacement, which you can do with "homogeneous differential equations" were the function of (x,y) can be expressed in terms of (v=y/x, usually) but you subbed (v=x/y).

v=x/y, which implies

y v = x, which implies

dx = v dy + y dv, and

dx/dy = v + y dv/dx

Now, we already have dx/dy, which is given as your first equation.

I replace x/y with v, and I got

[tex]dx/dy = v + y(dv/dy)=v-\frac{40\sqrt{1-(\frac{1}{v})^2}}{k}[/tex]

and the v's cancel, so it might be a bit easier to solve.
Substituting vy for x in the right hand side of OP's first equation gives: [itex]\displaystyle \frac{k y-40\sqrt{v^2y^2+y^2}}{k vy}[/itex]

Then I get [itex]\displaystyle dx/dy = v + y(dv/dy)=\frac{1}{v}-\frac{40\sqrt{1-(\frac{1}{v})^2}}{k}[/itex]

So that the v's don't cancel.
 
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Oops, you're right. Probably much better to replace v = y/x instead, then.
 

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