Exploring the Effects of Dark Energy on Extremely Large Black Holes

In summary, a black hole's Schwarzschild radius is not linearly proportional to its mass if dark energy is present. Even if dark energy is present, a black hole would have to have more mass than expected for it to have an event horizon. Wormholes and super-extremal black holes are not possible with present dark energy effects.
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Ordinarily a black hole’s Schwarzschild radius is linearly proportional to its mass.

However, wouldn’t there be a deviation from this rule for extremely large black holes? Suppose we assume dark energy is due to a cosmological constant, whose value is the same everywhere (including inside the black hole). Since the amount of dark energy inside the black hole grows as the cube of its radius, but the black hole’s own mass only grows linearly with radius, eventually we will get to a point where the amount of dark energy inside the hole is a significant fraction of it’s “regular” mass. But dark energy is repulsive, so in order to ensure we still have an event horizon, a black hole of a given radius would need to have more mass than we would expect it to. Presumably this would be the case with a black hole formed from all the matter in the observable universe. Is this correct?

Also, would dark energy effects allow very large black holes to be super-extremal (or wormholes)?
 
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A Puzzlement said:
Ordinarily a black hole’s Schwarzschild radius is linearly proportional to its volume.
Shouldn't be mass ?
 
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Oops, I meant to say mass, not volume. My mistake.
 
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A Puzzlement said:
Ordinarily a black hole’s Schwarzschild radius is linearly proportional to its volume.

However, wouldn’t there be a deviation from this rule for extremely large black holes? Suppose we assume dark energy is due to a cosmological constant, whose value is the same everywhere (including inside the black hole). Since the amount of dark energy inside the black hole grows as the cube of its radius, but the black hole’s own mass only grows linearly with radius, eventually we will get to a point where the amount of dark energy inside the hole is a significant fraction of it’s “regular” mass. But dark energy is repulsive, so in order to ensure we still have an event horizon, a black hole of a given radius would need to have more mass than we would expect it to. Presumably this would be the case with a black hole formed from all the matter in the observable universe. Is this correct?

Also, would dark energy effects allow very large black holes to be super-extremal (or wormholes)?

I guess I understand your idea, I don't think we can talk about a cosmological constant inside the black hole but let's assume we can, Even in that case the density of the cosmological constant will not change with time. Why? Because it is a rustic property of space-time, it doesn't depend on how you choose the volume of the region. Let us suppose with a box size ##a^3## and dark energy density ##ρ_Λ## as the reason as I described above even you increase the volume the density would be the same.

The other thing is it's hard to talk about a volume of a black hole.
@PeterDonis might be more helpful on this subject.
 

FAQ: Exploring the Effects of Dark Energy on Extremely Large Black Holes

What exactly is a black hole?

A black hole is a region in space where the gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, including light, can escape from it. This happens when a massive star dies and collapses under its own gravity, creating a singularity at its center.

How do we know that black holes exist?

Scientists have observed the effects of black holes on their surroundings, such as the distortion of light from stars and gas, and the high-speed rotation of matter around a central point. They have also detected gravitational waves, which are ripples in space-time caused by the collision of two black holes.

What is dark energy and how does it relate to black holes?

Dark energy is a theoretical form of energy that is thought to make up about 70% of the universe and is responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe. It is not directly related to black holes, but the existence of dark energy is supported by observations of the expansion of space around black holes.

Can anything escape from a black hole?

Once something crosses the event horizon, the point of no return, it cannot escape from a black hole. This includes light, which is why black holes appear black. However, outside of the event horizon, objects can escape if they have enough energy and velocity.

Are there different types of black holes?

Yes, there are three main types of black holes: stellar black holes, intermediate black holes, and supermassive black holes. Stellar black holes are formed by the collapse of a single massive star, while intermediate black holes are thought to be the result of the merging of smaller black holes. Supermassive black holes, which can be billions of times more massive than the sun, are found at the center of most galaxies.

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