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Well I don't have time to look it up, so would someone let me know what it all means?
Don't be so hasty, smurf. Checked the mirror lately? You've been going through some peculiar changes since I put the zoobonic whammy on you.Smurf said:You're his avatar.
Yes, me too, please. I've seen these before, but I don't know what this one is supposed to mean.hypatia said:Well I don't have time to look it up, so would someone let me know what it all means?
And I think that it is unnatural huh? I always knew that I was immortal.Zoobie said:The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.
When I was given the test years ago, I had a lot of questions I wanted answered about the white room before I would give my response: does it have a window? If so, what's outside the window? Is there furniture? Carpet? And so forth. My answer depends completely on what kind of white room it might be. The guy just kept saying "Whatever comes to mind." So I enisioned a nice sunny, white room with a big window. A person, I think, could just as easily envision a cold, sterile basement cell lit by fluorescent light, and tiled from floor to ceiling in cold ceramic white industrial tile. There are white rooms, and white rooms.TheStatutoryApe said:And I think that it is unnatural huh? I always knew that I was immortal.
Yeah, I was thinking of the separation of mind and body (reason and appetite, judgement and blood, god and beast), but in a kind of poetic instead of physical sense.zoobyshoe said:The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.
Hmmmm...hypnagogue said:3) Eternal, majestic.
I was thinking Jung too, but it was just a connection my brain spat out - don't really know anything about him.zoobyshoe said:The animal seems pretty reliable, but I would like to know how someone came to the conclusion an all white room would be analogous to people's notion of death, or a body of water to sex. I wonder if this is derived from Jungian psychology? (It's not Freudian.)
Moonbear said:Atlantic ocean; unforgiving, pounding
Hey, I went for Pacific Ocean: big, wobbly. How do you think I feel now? Oh well. At least I'm domesticated.matthyaouw said:*giggles to self*
honestrosewater said:3)Historic, inconstant.
You just don't know how I intended those words.matthyaouw said:*giggles even more*
I like this game!
(Me, grow up? never!)
Why then does the Rorschach continue to be used?
The answer may be found in the review of A. G. Bernstein in the seventh Mental Measurement Yearbook in 1972. He wrote (p.434): "the view that recognition, the act of construing an unfamiliar stimulus, taps central components of personality functions is one that will remain crucial in any psychology committed to the understanding of human experience." Despite his misuse of the term recognition (which means noting that a stimulus has appeared before in one's experience — the exact opposite of "construing an unfamiliar stimulus"), I agree with Bernstein. He refers to a view, a plausible assumption. If we adopt this assumption, the Rorschach should work. The overwhelming evidence that it does not work is ignored.
What, and "unforgiving, pounding" is subtle?honestrosewater said:But big and wobbly is pretty straightforward... or not.
I don't think you're taking this seriously enough. There's a time and place for fun and games, you know... [the psychology forum, for instance]hypnagogue said:eh, like I said, I'm very skeptical. It might make sense on some intuitive level that, say, the animal you choose is some sort of representation of yourself. But this in itself is really no guarantee that there is any real deep meaning to all of this. From the link I posted earlier about the Rorschach ink blot test:
Now I'm not aware of any real evidence that's been collected on the questions posed in this thread, but the thrust behind them seems to be the same as the Rorschach: a plausible interpretation of the associations one makes used to infer something about one's personality or psychology. But plausibility alone means little, apparently especially so in the case of psychological probes like this, since the Rorschach test is so plausible but has not been shown to be very useful.
And really, for what it's worth, I think the Rorschach test is much more plausible than this test-- why is it at all plausible that one's attitude towards bodies of water should correlate with one's sexual attitudes? If this comes from Freudian or Jungian traditions, the same problem crops up of actually grounding the theory in experiment and fact.
It might even well be that for at least some of the questions, for some of the people who answer them, there is something going on that makes the intended inference valid, e.g. for a particular person it might be the case that that person's psychology is such that the animal adjectives he chooses really do reflect his self-attitude, for whatever reason. But even if this is the case occasionally, I highly doubt that there is some universal, intercultural (or even intracultural) mechanism of human psychology that makes these intended inferences valid across all, or even most, people.
pattylou said:3.) Yosemite Falls (I know, not a body of water.) Fast, powerful.
Strange indeed. Since when are elephants wise? I thought owls were the wise ones.hypnagogue said:So apparently I see myself as wise and strange, and I like my sex eternal and majestic (maybe I should look into that tantric stuff), but when it comes to death I'm kind of indifferent. "What's that you say doc? I have two weeks to live? eh, whatever."
*chortle* ??What??hypnagogue said:*chortle* *snicker*
She's a busy gir- I mean, woman. What can one say?hypnagogue said:Originally Posted by pattylou
3.) Yosemite Falls (I know, not a body of water.) Fast, powerful.
*chortle* *snicker*
honestrosewater said:*chortle* ??What??
zoobyshoe said:The first question, your favorite animal, reflects your attitude toward yourself. Not the animal itself, but the words you used to describe it.
Moonbear said:Chinchilla: bouncy, adorable
zooby said:The second question: how you feel when imagining yourself entering an all white room, reveals your attitude to death.
Moonbear said:Cold, sterile
zooby said:The third question, how you describe your favorite body of water, reveals your attitude to sex.
Moonbear said:Umm...err...ah...hmm...I never thought about favorite bodies of water, ever. Okay...
Bathtub: soothing, warm.
Alright, alright, alright, I'll pick a different one:
Atlantic ocean; unforgiving, pounding (I really want to use more words...just two adjectives isn't enough).
This one is more comprehensive, but it seems more Freudian because of the "story" or "scenario" aspect: more like a dream sequence. The fact you aren't limited to two adjectives per description should make it a better formed analysis.Math Is Hard said:I remember a similar version of this from high school. We called it a "parlor game". It sort of goes in a story form: