Field lines near the equilibrium point

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric potential θ(x,y) in the xy plane due to two charges, 4q and -q, located at specific points. The user attempts to derive the potential and questions whether their setup is correct, particularly regarding the equilibrium point at the origin. Participants suggest checking the signs in the potential equation and emphasize the importance of accounting for the differing magnitudes of the charges. They recommend simplifying the problem by analyzing the potential along the x-axis and visually sketching the charge positions. The conversation highlights the complexities of working with charges of unequal magnitudes and opposite signs.
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Homework Statement



Charges 4q and -q are located at the points (-2a,0,0) and (-a,0,0), respectively. Write down the potential θ(x,y) for points in the xy plane, and then use a Taylor expansion to find an approximate expression for θ near the origin, which you can quickly show is the equilibrium point. (You can set a=1 to make things simpler)

Homework Equations


θ(x,y,s)=∫(ρ(x',y',z')dx'dy'dz')/4πεr


The Attempt at a Solution


setting a-1, ignoring the factor of q/4πε0, the potential due to the two charges, at locations in the xy plane is θ(x,y)=(1/(sqrt((x-2)2+y2)-(1/sqrt((x-1)2+y2)

Have I set this equation up correctly?
 
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Welcome to PF;
Have I set this equation up correctly?
... how would you check?

i.e. is the equilibrium point at the origin as the problem says?
(Notice that one of the charges is much bigger than the other? Have you accounted for that?)

Have you checked that you have added the vectors properly - say, by sketching them out head-to-tail?
 
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Hello, scotshocker. Welcome to PF!

ignoring the factor of q/4πε0, the potential due to the two charges, at locations in the xy plane is
θ(x,y)=(1/(sqrt((x-2)2+y2)-(1/sqrt((x-1)2+y2)

Have I set this equation up correctly?

Looks good except for a couple of signs. At what values of x would you expect the potential to be undefined?
[EDIT: And as Simon points out, the charges are not of equal magnitude.]
 
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The fact that the one charge is larger than the other is the part that I am having trouble with. I am also confusing myself because both charges are on the same side of the origin. I am severely out of practice and am just trying to figure this out. Any suggestions?
 
The charges are also opposite signs.
Perhaps you'd better write down the equation for the potential along just the x-axis to start with - don't leave off the q and the a this time: I think you removed them too soon, before you understood the situation.
Once you see that, you'll probably make the connections you need.

Actually draw the axes - mark out x=0, x=+a, x=+2a, x=-a, x=-2a, etc.
 
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