Find Force F(v) of Boat Drag Force: Barger's Classical Mechanics

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The discussion revolves around determining the drag force F(v) acting on a boat as its velocity decreases according to the equation v=c^2(t-t_{1})^2. The initial calculation yields F=2mc√v, but the solution in the textbook includes a negative sign, prompting questions about its justification. Participants clarify that the negative sign is necessary because the drag force opposes the positive velocity, indicating that the force must act in the opposite direction of the boat's motion. They emphasize that as time progresses, the velocity becomes less negative until it reaches zero, reinforcing that the force must be negative to decelerate the boat. Ultimately, the correct interpretation requires selecting the negative root when solving for F, aligning with the physics of drag forces.
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I have a question about a physics problem, this comes from Barger's Classical Mechanics: A boat is slowed by a drag force, F(v) and its velocity decreases according to the formula v=c^2(t-t_{1})^2 where c is a constant and t_{1} is the time at which it stops. Find the force F(v) as a function of v.

So I figured F=ma=mdv/dt=md/dt(c^2(t-t_1)^2). After differentiation, I get F=2mc\sqrt{v}. The solution in the back has a negative sign, and I'm wondering what justifies the negative. I'm assuming it has somethign to do with the fact that it is a drag force and the velocity is decreasing, but it's not entirely clear. Thanks in advance.
 
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Because in your original problem the velocity is decreasing, thus the first derivative of velocity
must be negative right?
 
For the force to slow down the boat, it must be applied in the inverse sense of the velocity. If the velocity is positive, the force must be negative.
 
It's obvious in the given equation...

If you were to look at the given equation the (t-t1)^2 part, you would notice that as time increases from 0, the velocity becomes less negative until eventually reaching 0 when t=t1. This must mean that velocity is directed in the negative direction and force is in the positive direction.

If however you were to take it as (t1 - t)^2 , which wouldn't really change the velocity equation, the directions are reversed and force is in the negative direction.

Hope this helped.
 
rahullak said:
If you were to look at the given equation the (t-t1)^2 part, you would notice that as time increases from 0, the velocity becomes less negative until eventually reaching 0 when t=t1. This must mean that velocity is directed in the negative direction and force is in the positive direction.
The velocity is always positive, the acceleration negative. As SGT (and jaredkipe) stated, the force must be negative.

When taking the square root of v, there are two answers: one plus, one minus. You have to choose the minus answer, since that's the one that fits this situation.

Just to be clear:
c (t - t_1) = -\sqrt{v}
c (t - t_1) \ne +\sqrt{v}
 
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