Find the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds

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In summary, to calculate the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds, you divide Alan's speed by Jenny's speed. The units used for the speeds should be consistent, and the ratio can be greater than 1, indicating that Alan's speed is faster. The ratio is directly proportional to their travel time, so a ratio of 2/1 would mean Alan's travel time is half of Jenny's. The ratio cannot be negative since speed is a scalar quantity.
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Alan is a jogger that leaves the top of a hill heading for the bottom of the hill. At the same time, Jenny, a biker, heads up the hill attempting to reach the top. They each proceed at a steady rate. After passing each other, Jenny takes 81 times as long to reach the top as Alan takes to reach the bottom. What is the ratio of their speeds?

D1 is Alan's first distance, D2 is Alan's second distance, T1 is Alan's first time, T2 is Alan's second time, R is Alan's rate, d1 is Jenny's first distance, d2 is Jenny's second distance, t1 is Jenny's first time, t2 is Jenny's second time, and r is Jenny's rate. Note that "first distance, second distance, first time, and second time" is before or after they meet. For example, d2 would be Jenny's distance traveled after she passes Alan.

What we have done so far is writing different equations based on the information given/known. We know that d=rt, and can be rearranged to be r=d/t or t=d/r. These are the equations we have so far:
D1= R(T1), d1= r(t1)
D2= R(T2), d2= r(81t1)

We also rearranged some of the equations above, so:
81T2= d2/r, T1= D1/R, and t1= d1/r

This is all we have. Is this right so far? If so, how do we finish the problem? If not, what do we need to do differently?
 
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Hi mathgeek7365,

Let $h$ be the vertical distance between the top and bottom of the hill. In time $t$, Alan has traveled a distance equal to $h - Rt$; in time $t$, Jenny has traveled a distance equal to $rt$. Alan and Jenny meet when $h - Rt = rt$. Solving for $t$, we find that they meet when

$$t = \frac{h}{r + R}$$

Let $t_0$ represent that value of $t$. If $t_A$ is the time Alan takes to reach the bottom from the top of the hill, then his vertical distance from the ground is zero, i.e., $h - Rt_A = 0$. Solving for $t_A$ yields $t_A = \frac{h}{R}$. If $t_J$ is the time Jenny takes to reach the top from the bottom of the hill, then her vertical distance from the ground is $h$, i.e., $rt_J = h$. So $t_J = \frac{h}{r}$. Now since after they meet, it takes Jenny $81$ times as long to reach the top as it takes Alan to reach the bottom, then

$$t_J - t_0 = 81(t_A - t_0)$$

$$\frac{h}{r} - \frac{h}{r + R} = 81\left(\frac{h}{R} - \frac{h}{r + R}\right)$$

$$\frac{hR}{r(r + R)} = 81\frac{hr}{R(r + R)}$$

$$\frac{R}{r} = \frac{81r}{R}$$

Cross multiplying results in $R^2 = 81r^2$; taking square roots on both sides gives $R = 9 r$. Hence

$$R : r = 9 : 1$$
 
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Another way to approach this is to let:

\(\displaystyle d_A\) = the distance traveled by Alan after they meet

\(\displaystyle d_J\) = the distance traveled by Jenny after they meet

Thus:

\(\displaystyle d_A=r_At\)

\(\displaystyle d_J=r_J(81t)\)

From this, we determine:

\(\displaystyle \frac{r_A}{r_J}=81\frac{d_A}{d_J}\)

Now, since the distance traveled by Alan before they meet is equal to the distance Jenny travels after they meet, and likewise the distance traveled by Jenny before they meet is equal to the distance Alan travels after they meet we also have:

\(\displaystyle \frac{d_A}{d_J}=\frac{r_J}{r_A}\)

Thus:

\(\displaystyle \frac{r_A}{r_J}=81\frac{r_J}{r_A}\implies \frac{r_A}{r_J}=9\)

And so we conclude:

\(\displaystyle r_A:r_J=9:1\)
 

FAQ: Find the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds

How do you calculate the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds?

To calculate the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds, you divide Alan's speed by Jenny's speed. For example, if Alan's speed is 60 mph and Jenny's speed is 40 mph, the ratio would be 60/40 or 3/2.

What units should be used for the speeds when finding the ratio?

The units used for the speeds should be consistent. It does not matter what units are used, as long as they are the same for both Alan and Jenny's speeds. For example, if Alan's speed is given in miles per hour, Jenny's speed should also be given in miles per hour.

Can the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds be greater than 1?

Yes, the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds can be greater than 1. This would mean that Alan's speed is faster than Jenny's.

How does the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds affect their travel time?

The ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds is directly proportional to their travel time. This means that if the ratio is 2/1, Alan's travel time would be half of Jenny's travel time.

Can the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds be negative?

No, the ratio of Alan and Jenny's speeds cannot be negative. This is because speed is a scalar quantity and cannot have a negative value.

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