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The discussion revolves around determining the value of the function f(67500) given specific conditions on f(x). The function is defined for natural numbers and satisfies the properties f(xy) = f(x) + f(y) - 1, holds the value f(90) = 5, and equals 1 for only finitely many numbers. Participants express enthusiasm and validate each other's attempts at solving the problem. The correct approach to finding f(67500) is acknowledged, highlighting the collaborative nature of the problem-solving process. Overall, the thread emphasizes mathematical exploration and community support in tackling complex functions.
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Given that the function $f(x)$ is defined on the set of natural numbers, taking values from the natural numbers, and that it satisfies the following conditions:

(a) $f(xy)=f(x)+f(y)-1$ for any $x,y \in N$.

(b) the equality $f(x)=1$ is true for finitely many numbers.

(c) $f(90) = 5$

Find $f(67500)$.
 
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I have edited anemone's post to write $f(90)=5$ instead of $f(90)=6$. I helped her modify this problem from a past Olympiad problem, and I inadvertently gave her the wrong value. My apologies to everyone. (Wasntme)
 
anemone said:
Given that the function $f(x)$ is defined on the set of natural numbers, taking values from the natural numbers, and that it satisfies the following conditions:

(a) $f(xy)=f(x)+f(y)-1$ for any $x,y \in N$.

(b) the equality $f(x)=1$ is true for finitely many numbers.

(c) $f(90) = 5$

Find $f(67500)$.

Let me give it a try.

From (a) we find that $f(90) = f(2\cdot 3^2\cdot 5) = f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) - 3$.
With (c) this yields:
$$f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) - 3 = 5$$
$$f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) = 8\qquad [1]$$

My lemma
Neither f(2), nor f(3), nor f(5) can be 1.
Proof
Suppose one of them is 1, say f(2), then $f(2^k) = kf(2) - k + 1=1$.
That means that infinitely many numbers x have f(x)=1.
This is a contradiction with (b).Combining my lemma with [1] tells us that $f(2)=f(3)=f(5)=2$.

It follows from (a) that:
$f(67500)=f(2^2\cdot 3^3\cdot 5^4)=2f(2)+3f(3)+4f(5) - 8=2\cdot 2 + 3\cdot 2 + 4\cdot 2 - 8 = 10. \qquad \blacksquare$
 
I like Serena said:
Let me give it a try.

From (a) we find that $f(90) = f(2\cdot 3^2\cdot 5) = f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) - 3$.
With (c) this yields:
$$f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) - 3 = 5$$
$$f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) = 8\qquad [1]$$

My lemma
Neither f(2), nor f(3), nor f(5) can be 1.
Proof
Suppose one of them is 1, say f(2), then $f(2^k) = kf(2) - k + 1=1$.
That means that infinitely many numbers x have f(x)=1.
This is a contradiction with (b).Combining my lemma with [1] tells us that $f(2)=f(3)=f(5)=2$.

It follows from (a) that:
$f(67500)=f(2^2\cdot 3^3\cdot 5^4)=2f(2)+3f(3)+4f(5) - 8=2\cdot 2 + 3\cdot 2 + 4\cdot 2 - 8 = 10. \qquad \blacksquare$
Clever!

-Dan
 
I like Serena said:
Let me give it a try.

From (a) we find that $f(90) = f(2\cdot 3^2\cdot 5) = f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) - 3$.
With (c) this yields:
$$f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) - 3 = 5$$
$$f(2) + 2f(3) + f(5) = 8\qquad [1]$$

My lemma
Neither f(2), nor f(3), nor f(5) can be 1.
Proof
Suppose one of them is 1, say f(2), then $f(2^k) = kf(2) - k + 1=1$.
That means that infinitely many numbers x have f(x)=1.
This is a contradiction with (b).Combining my lemma with [1] tells us that $f(2)=f(3)=f(5)=2$.

It follows from (a) that:
$f(67500)=f(2^2\cdot 3^3\cdot 5^4)=2f(2)+3f(3)+4f(5) - 8=2\cdot 2 + 3\cdot 2 + 4\cdot 2 - 8 = 10. \qquad \blacksquare$

Thank you for participating, I like Serena! And your answer is correct!:cool:

topsquark said:
Clever!

-Dan

Indeed!(Star)(Star)(Star)
 
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