Finding the speed of the block for one and two springs

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing the speed of a block launched by one or two identical springs compressed by the same length. The context includes concepts from energy conservation, specifically relating potential energy stored in springs to the kinetic energy of the block.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how the presence of two springs might affect the potential energy and consequently the speed of the block. Questions are raised about whether the potential and kinetic energies are doubled and how that relates to the speed of the block.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the potential energy of the springs and the kinetic energy of the block. Some participants suggest writing equations to clarify the relationships, while others are questioning the implications of doubling the spring potential energy on the block's speed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of a ratio (v/v0) in the problem, which raises questions about its significance in the context of comparing speeds in the two scenarios.

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Homework Statement


The spring in the figure (Figure 1) is compressed by length Δx. It launches the block across a frictionless surface with speed v0. The two springs in the figure (Figure 2) are identical to the spring of figure 1. They are compressed by the same length Δx and used to launch the same block. What is the block's speed now (for figure 2)?

Figure 1:
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Figure 2:
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Homework Equations


Ui = Kf
Esp = ½ k ⋅ Δx2
Esp = K = ½ mv2
(as it launches off)

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how having double the spring would affect the block's speed. I assumed it would increase (double) the spring potential energy because two of the same spring from Figure 1 are present for the situation in Figure 2. Would the speed for Figure 2, then, be simply 2V0?

v/v0 is also in front of the answer box, and I am not sure why.

Any help would be much appreciated!
 

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Is the potential energy doubled?
Is the kinetic energy doubled?
If the answer to both questions above is "yes", is the speed doubled?

Write a few equations down.
 
Hello
miyayeah said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how having double the spring would affect the block's speed. I assumed it would increase (double) the spring potential energy because two of the same spring from Figure 1 are present for the situation in Figure 2.
Yes, that's right.

Would the speed for Figure 2, then, be simply 2V0?
Why would that be? Hint: Think about how the final kinetic energies of the two cases compare.

v/v0 is also in front of the answer box, and I am not sure why.
Maybe they are asking you to give the ratio of the velocity with two springs to the velocity with one spring. So, the answer will just be a number with no units.
 
kuruman said:
Is the potential energy doubled?
Is the kinetic energy doubled?
If the answer to both questions above is "yes", is the speed doubled?

Write a few equations down.
TSny said:
Hello
Yes, that's right.

Why would that be? Hint: Think about how the final kinetic energies of the two cases compare.

Maybe they are asking you to give the ratio of the velocity with two springs to the velocity with one spring. So, the answer will just be a number with no units.

½ k ⋅ Δx2 = ½ mv2

When potential energy is doubled, k ⋅ Δx2 = mv2, so
v= √[(k ⋅ Δx2)/m]

This is the same velocity as when there is only one spring. So would the speed for both situation be the same?
 
U1=K1
U2=K2
You have U2=2U1 because you have two springs compressed by the same amount Δx. OK so far.
Now an expression for K1 is ½mv12. What do you think should be an analogous expression for K2?
 
kuruman said:
U1=K1
U2=K2
You have U2=2U1 because you have two springs compressed by the same amount Δx. OK so far.
Now an expression for K1 is ½mv12. What do you think should be an analogous expression for K2?

That helped a lot, I realized I have to use some kind of formula for that relationship between the two situations. I was able to get the answer to the question.
Thank you!
 

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