Force of Pulled/Pushed Rod: What's the Difference?

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The discussion centers on the differences in force required to maintain constant velocity when a rod is pulled versus pushed at a 45° angle. In the pulling scenario, the vertical component of the applied force reduces the normal force, leading to lower friction and a smaller required force. Conversely, in the pushing scenario, the vertical component increases the normal force, resulting in higher friction and a greater required force. The calculations reveal that the pulling force is less than the pushing force due to these changes in normal force and friction. Understanding this distinction is crucial for solving similar physics problems effectively.
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Rod is 1. pulled, 2. pushed horizontally. Force required to sustain constant vel.?

Homework Statement


There are 2 scenarios.

1. A rod of mass 5kg is first pulled at constant velocity by a force at 45° to the horizontal.
2. Then the same rod is pushed at constant velocity by a force at 45° to the horizontal.

Assuming that in both cases the frictional force is horizontal and equal to 0.4 times the normal reaction force on the rod, find the force F in each case.

Why is the force different in 1 and 2? (Especially important to me, because I don't understand why it should be different)


Homework Equations


weight = mass x gravity
normal reaction force N = cos(x) x weight
friction force f = 0.4 x N
f = x-component of F. therefore.. F = f/ cos (x)


The Attempt at a Solution


In scenario 1:
I found the weight to be 50N.
Then the reaction force must be cos (45) x 50N = 35N.
Thus the friction must be 0.4 x 35 N = 14 N
Thus F = 14 / cos (45) =19.71 N

This answer is wrong (F = 20.2 N according to answer key) and I don't understand why.

In scenario 2, I don't know why it makes a difference if the rod is pushed or pulled. I again i get F = 19.71 N, even though the answer is supposed to be F = 47.1 N

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Basically what you forgot, the friction depends on the normal force, but the normal force is not only the gravitational force.
It also depends on the vertical component of your applied force.
Thats also where the difference will come from, if you pull the normal force will decrease so will the friction, if you push the normal force will increase and so will the friction.
 


thank you. that helped.
 


no problem ;)
 
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