Freezing Water with a Reversed Steam Engine

In summary, the conversation is discussing the use of a steam engine to freeze a tray of a dozen 37 g compartments of liquid water at room temperature into a dozen ice cubes. The equation for the required heat is given and the coefficient of performance of ice is calculated. It is then mentioned that the answer obtained is incorrect and the issue of whether the 300 W input power is work or heat is brought up.
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The steam engine which operates between 500°C and 200°C is run in reverse. How long would it take to freeze a tray of a dozen 37 g compartments of liquid water at room temperature (20°C) into a dozen ice cubes at the freezing point, assuming that it takes 300 W of input electric power to run it? Assume ideal (Carnot) behavior.

The Q that is required to freeze the cube is (37/1000)kg*(4186J/K)(20K)+(37/1000)kg(3.33 x 10^5)

The coefficient of performance of ice is equal to TL/(TH - TL)=QL/(QH-QL), so pluging it the stuff, I get (200+273)/((500+273)-(200+273))= QL/ (300-QL), so I solved for QL and divide the Q needed to melt ice by QL. But my answer is wrong. Why? The 300W is QH, right? :cry:
 
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The Q that is required to freeze the cube is (37/1000)kg*(4186J/K)(20K)+(37/1000)kg(3.33 x 10^5)
First of all, it seems you forgot to multiply by 12, since the problem considers a dozen 37 gram compartments.

Then to freeze one has to reduce the temperature by 20°C and then remove the heat of fusion. It appears you have considered this.
 
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physicsss said:
assuming that it takes 300 W of input electric power to run it? Assume ideal (Carnot) behavior.

Do you think this is W(work) or QH?
 
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And thank you for pointing that out. :)
 

FAQ: Freezing Water with a Reversed Steam Engine

1. How does a reversed steam engine freeze water?

A reversed steam engine freezes water by using mechanical energy to compress a refrigerant gas, which in turn absorbs heat from the surrounding environment and cools the water.

2. Can any type of water be frozen with a reversed steam engine?

Yes, a reversed steam engine can freeze any type of water as long as it is in a liquid state and can be brought to a low enough temperature.

3. What is the purpose of using a reversed steam engine to freeze water?

The purpose of using a reversed steam engine to freeze water is for industrial or scientific applications, such as in refrigerators, air conditioners, and cryogenic systems.

4. How does a reversed steam engine compare to other methods of freezing water?

A reversed steam engine is a more efficient and environmentally friendly method of freezing water compared to traditional methods such as using chemical refrigerants or direct contact with ice.

5. Are there any limitations to using a reversed steam engine to freeze water?

The main limitation of using a reversed steam engine to freeze water is that it requires a power source to operate, making it less practical for smaller-scale or remote applications.

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