Gauss's Law and Electric Field Question.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at point P1, located at a radial distance from a central charge Q within a uniformly charged spherical shell. The main question is whether the electric field derived using Gauss's Law accounts for both the central charge Q and the shell's charge q, or just Q. It is clarified that the Gaussian surface at P1 only encloses the charge Q, meaning the electric field at that point is solely due to Q, while the contribution from the shell's charge q is zero due to symmetry. Participants confirm this understanding, emphasizing that Gauss's Law indicates the electric field inside a uniformly charged shell is null. The conclusion affirms that the electric field at P1 is indeed only due to the central charge Q.
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Homework Statement


figure shows, in cross section, a plastic, spherical shell
with uniform charge q=16e and radius R. A particle
with charge Q = 5e is at the center.What is the electric field
(magnitude and direction) at (a) point P1 at radial distance a from Q

My question is at the point P1 is the electric field that the book found using gauss's law the total electric field or just the electric field due to Q (the point charge only).

This is worked out example 23.03 in the book "fundementals of physics 10e" by halliday and resnick.
Thanks.

Homework Equations


Q/ε = ∫Eda

The Attempt at a Solution


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sanhuy said:

Homework Statement


figure shows, in cross section, a plastic, spherical shell
with uniform charge q=16e and radius R. A particle
with charge Q = 5e is at the center.What is the electric field
(magnitude and direction) at (a) point P1 at radial distance a from Q

My question is at the point P1 is the magnitude of the electric field found using guass's law due to Q, or both Q and q?

What does Gauss' Law state?
 
ehild said:
What does Gauss' Law state?
I believe it states that the total electric flux out of / into a closed surface is equal to the charge enclosed divided by the permittivity. it pretty much relates the electric field at points on a closed surface to the
net charge enclosed by that surface.
 
Sorry, Let me rephrase my question because there may be some misinterpretation. is the electric field that the book found using gauss's law the total electric field or just the electric field due to Q (the point charge only).
 
Are you familiar with the shell theorem?
 
Orodruin said:
Are you familiar with the shell theorem?
No, not really. :\
 
wait, is the electric field inside of a shell zero due to symmetry if the charge is uniformly distributed on the spherical shell?
 
sanhuy said:
Sorry, Let me rephrase my question because there may be some misinterpretation. is the electric field that the book found using gauss's law the total electric field or just the electric field due to Q (the point charge only).
E is the electric field at the points of the Gaussian surface (the red sphere in your figure).
What charge is enclosed by your red Gaussian sphere that goes through P1? Is q inside it?
 
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ehild said:
E is the electric field at the points of the Gaussian surface (the red sphere in your figure).
What charge is enclosed by your red Gaussian sphere that goes through P1? Is q inside it?

Well it only encloses the charge Q not q. So is the electric field calculated at P1 only due to Q? and the electric field due to q is zero at point P1 because of gauss's law?

is this correct?
thanks.
 
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sanhuy said:
Well it only encloses the charge Q not q. So is the electric field calculated at P1 only due to Q? and the electric field due to q is zero at point P1 because of gauss's law?

is this correct?
thanks.
Right.
 
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Thanks guys.
 
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