Geodesics on Surfaces: Proving the Relationship to Particle Motion

In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove that a particle constrained to move on a surface with no forces will follow the geodesic of the surface. The equations for the geodesic and the path of the particle are shown, and it is noted that the speed must remain constant since there are no forces acting on the particle. The conversation ends with a question about how to continue with the proof.
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Homework Statement


Prove that a particle constrained to move on a surface [tex]f(x,y,z)=0[/tex] and subject to no forces, moves along the geodesic of the surface.


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The Attempt at a Solution


OK, we should prove that the path the particle takes and the geodesic are given by the same expression.

For the geodesic:
[tex]\int dt=\int\frac{ds}{v}=\int\frac{\sqrt{dx^2+dy^2+dz^2}}{v}[/tex]
v must be constant since there are no forces - components of v may change along the path, but the speed will remain the same.

Now for the path:
[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}}=\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}[/tex]
etc.

But where from now on??
 
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FAQ: Geodesics on Surfaces: Proving the Relationship to Particle Motion

What are geodesics on a surface?

Geodesics on a surface are the shortest path between two points on a curved surface. They are like "straight lines" on a curved surface and are used to measure distances and find the most efficient routes.

How are geodesics on a surface calculated?

Geodesics on a surface can be calculated using differential geometry and the concept of the metric tensor. This involves finding the shortest path that minimizes the distance between two points on the surface.

What is the significance of geodesics on a surface?

Geodesics on a surface have many applications in fields such as engineering, physics, and mathematics. They are used to study the geometry of surfaces, determine the shortest paths between points, and analyze the behavior of light and other particles on curved surfaces.

Can geodesics on a surface be curved?

Yes, geodesics on a surface can be curved. In fact, on a curved surface, all geodesics will be curved. This is because the shortest distance between two points on a curved surface will follow the natural curvature of the surface.

How do geodesics on a surface differ from straight lines on a flat surface?

Geodesics on a surface are like "straight lines" on a curved surface, but they differ from straight lines on a flat surface in that they follow the natural curvature of the surface. On a flat surface, straight lines are the shortest distance between two points, while on a curved surface, geodesics are the shortest distance.

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