Global simultaneity surfaces - how to adjust proper time?

In summary: Yes, this is correct. But that is always true for any timelike curve provided your curve parameter is properly normalized. So from this fact alone you can't deduce anything useful about particular congruences of timelikes curves that have particular properties of interest,...
  • #71
ok, the latter part of post #69 is in fact consistent to assume the function ##h## to be ##h>0## everywhere (as done from Sachs and Wu in their definition of synchronizable congruence).
 
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  • #72
BTW I was thinking that their definition of locally proper time synchronizable (i.e. ##d\xi=0##) is actually the same as the existence *locally* of a function ##f## such that ##\xi= df## -- in force of Poincaré lemma.
 
  • #73
cianfa72 said:
BTW I was thinking that their definition of locally proper time synchronizable (i.e. ##d\xi=0##) is actually the same as the existence *locally* of a function f such that ##\xi= df## -- in force of Poincaré lemma.
Yes, for 1-forms this local equivalence holds.
 
  • #74
I was thinking about the following trivial example involving a sphere as discussed here Synchronous reference frame.

Consider the set of latitude circles. They can be described as the level sets of a global function ##g## defined on the sphere in a such way that the difference between its values on different level sets is the length of any segment of great circle between them (geodesic segment) and orthogonal to them.

By the logic discussed above we can build a global coordinate chart for the sphere such that ##g_{00}=1## and ##g_{01}=0## (it turns out in an absurd since we know it does not exist at all).

I believe the problem is that such globally defined function ##g## actually does not exist. If there was then ##\omega=dg## would define a smooth unit vector field ##Q## such that ##\omega(Q)=-1## not vanishing at any point. We know it cannot exist -- see Hair ball theorem.
 
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  • #75
cianfa72 said:
Consider the set of latitude circles. They can be described as the level sets of a global function ##g## defined on the sphere
No, they can't. The poles are not "level sets"; they're single points. Single points won't work as "level sets" since each point in a "level set" has to have an open neighborhood that is also in the "level set".

cianfa72 said:
I believe the problem is that such globally defined function ##g## actually does not exist.
The one you defined does not work, as above. I think the sphere in general does not work for this kind of global construction because it's a compact manifold.

cianfa72 said:
If there was then ##\omega=dg## would define a smooth unit vector field ##Q## such that ##\omega(Q)=-1## not vanishing at any point. We know it cannot exist -- see Hair ball theorem.
Yes, this is another reason why the sphere would not work for this kind of global construction. One can still do it on an open subset of the sphere, as @PAllen said in the thread you linked to.
 
  • #76
PeterDonis said:
No, they can't. The poles are not "level sets"; they're single points. Single points won't work as "level sets" since each point in a "level set" has to have an open neighborhood that is also in the "level set".
Ah ok, so this is not actually a counterexample. The claim that if exists a smooth global function ##g## such that ##\omega = dg## (i.e. a unit vector field ##Q## defined from ##\omega(Q)=-1##) then there is a *global* coordinate chart such that ##g_{00}=1## and ##g_{0\alpha}=0## holds true.
 
  • #77
cianfa72 said:
this is not actually a counterexample.
Correct.
 
  • #78
PeterDonis said:
Formally, ##d \alpha = \beta \wedge \omega## is another possibility to make the first term vanish, yes. However, I believe it is ruled out because continuing to apply ##dd = 0## leads to an infinite regress.
I went back and looked at this again, and I don't think my previous comment, quoted above, was correct.

If ##d\alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0##, then ##d d \alpha = 0## gives ##d\beta \wedge \omega + \beta \wedge d \omega = 0##, which in turn gives ##\left( d \beta + \beta \wedge \alpha \right) \wedge \omega = 0##.

There are two ways to satisfy that last equality. First, we could have ##d \beta = 0## and ##\beta \wedge \alpha = 0##. But ##\beta \wedge \alpha = 0## means ##\beta = k \alpha##, and thus ##d \beta = 0## means ##dk \wedge \alpha + k d \alpha = dk \wedge \alpha + k \beta \wedge \omega = 0##. Since ##\alpha##, ##\beta##, and ##\omega## are all linearly independent (by hypothesis, since we have assumed that ##d\alpha \neq 0##), the only way to satisfy the last equality is to have ##dk \wedge \alpha = 0## and ##d \alpha = 0##. But ##d \alpha = 0## contradicts our hypothesis (just stated in the parentheses above), so this possibility cannot be correct.

The second way to satisfy the last equality in the 2nd paragraph above is to have ##d\beta = - \beta \wedge \alpha = \alpha \wedge \beta##. But this is the same equation that is satisfied by ##d \omega## and ##\omega##, so we must have ##\beta = \omega## for this case--but then, once again, we get ##d\alpha = \beta \wedge \omega = \omega \wedge \omega = 0##, which contradicts our hypothesis. So this possibility cannot be correct either.

In short, there is no way to have ##d\alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0## without leading to a contradiction.
 
  • #79
PeterDonis said:
In short, there is no way to have ##d\alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0## without leading to a contradiction.
ok, I believe it is locally the expected result.

By Poincarè lemma locally any closed form is even exact hence *locally* (i.e. in any open neighborhood) ##\omega \wedge d\omega=0## is really equivalent to the existence of functions ##f## and ##g## such that ##\omega=fdg##.
 
  • #80
cianfa72 said:
By Poincarè lemma locally any closed form is even exact hence *locally*
Any closed 1-form is locally exact, yes. This result does not generalize to higher rank forms, though.

In any case, way back in the earlier post I quoted, I was responding to your suggestion that ##d \alpha = 0## was not the only possibility. If there were a way to have ##d \omega = \alpha \wedge \omega## with ##d \alpha \neq 0##, then the 1-form ##\alpha## could not be proven to be closed and we could not apply the Poincare lemma. I was simply going back and revisiting and correcting my original claim about why ##d \alpha \neq 0## will not work.

cianfa72 said:
(i.e. in any open neighborhood) ##\omega \wedge d\omega=0## is really equivalent to the existence of functions ##f## and ##g## such that ##\omega=fdg##.
This only follows from the Poincare lemma if we can prove that ##d \alpha = 0##, where ##d \omega = \alpha \wedge \omega##. To do that, we have to rule out the possibility that ##d \alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0## for some ##\beta##. That's what my post #78 is about.
 
  • #81
PeterDonis said:
This only follows from the Poincare lemma if we can prove that ##d \alpha = 0##, where ##d \omega = \alpha \wedge \omega##. To do that, we have to rule out the possibility that ##d \alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0## for some ##\beta##. That's what my post #78 is about.
Sorry, not sure to understand. You said there is no way to have ##d \alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0## without leading to a contradiction. Hence it has to be ##d \alpha=0## I believe...
 
  • #82
cianfa72 said:
You said there is no way to have ##d \alpha = \beta \wedge \omega \neq 0## without leading to a contradiction.
Yes, that was the point of my post #78.

cianfa72 said:
Hence it has to be ##d \alpha=0##
Once we have correctly shown that the other possibility leads to a contradiction, yes. As I noted in post #78, I don't think my previous claim about the other possibility was correct; that's why I posted post #78, to correctly show why ##d \alpha = \beta \wedge \omega## does not work.
 
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