Gravitational potential energy of baseball

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a baseball thrown from a 22.0-meter building using energy conservation principles. For part (a), the initial potential energy converts to kinetic energy just before impact, allowing the calculation of speed without needing the mass of the baseball. In part (b), the speed remains the same regardless of the throw angle due to energy conservation. Participants clarify that mass can be omitted in the calculations since it cancels out, simplifying the problem. The key takeaway is that both scenarios yield the same final speed when air resistance is ignored.
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Homework Statement


A baseball is thrown from the roof of a 22.0-m-tall building with an inital velocty of magnitude 12.0 m/s and directed at an angle of 53.1 degrees above the horizontal.
a) What is the speed o fthe ball just before it strikes the ground? Use energy conservation and ignore air resistance.
b) What is the answer for part (a) if the inital velocity is at an angle of 53.1 below the horizontal?
c) If the effects of air resistance are included, will part (a) or part (b) give the higher speed?

Vo = 12 m/s
y1 = 22m
y2 = 0m
a = -9.8 m/s²
Voy=(12m/s)sin53.1 = 9.6 m/s
don't know why they don't give any variables for mass of the baseball.. ;\
other problems use .145kg for baseball so i decided just to use that

Homework Equations


E= K + Ugrav = constant
K= 1/2mv1²
1/2mv1² + mgy1 = 1/2mv2² + mgy2

The Attempt at a Solution


Initially, I'm guessing that the baseball only has potential energy, and when it hits the ground it's all transformed into kinetic energy.

K1 + Ugrav1 = K2 + Ugrav2
0 + Ugrav1 = K2 + 0
Ugrav1 = K2 (initial gravitational potential engergy = final kinetic energy)
K2 = 1/2mv2² = (1/2)(.145kg)(9.6m/s)² = 6.7J
Ugrav1 = mgy1 = (.145kg)(9.8m/s²)(22m) = 31.2 J
and I'm stuck.

how do i find the speed?

for part (b) i know that the velocity will be the same as the first part, because when it returns back from throw point, it will end up having the same velocity as if it were thrown 53.1 degrees above.
 
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aftermatth said:
Initially, I'm guessing that the baseball only has potential energy, and when it hits the ground it's all transformed into kinetic energy.
You are given the initial speed of the ball, so it has kinetic energy.
 
Incidentally, the mass of the ball is NOT needed to solve this problem.

Initially, I'm guessing that the baseball only has potential energy, and when it hits the ground it's all transformed into kinetic energy.

Does the ball only have potential energy to start with? Isn't it launched at a certain speed?
 
Oops, sorry for repeating what Doc Al said
 
Doc Al said:
You are given the initial speed of the ball, so it has kinetic energy.

oh youre right it does have kinetic energy..
K1 + Ugrav1 = K2

mass isn't required? do i just omit it from all parts?
i still don't know how to get to the velocity.
 
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You will find if you divide both sides of:
K1 + Ugrav1 = K2
by the mass, the problem does not contain mass.
 
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