H2O2 35% on Al 5083 at 150° gives 'limescale'

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Hi,

In our production line we are heating h2o2 in a heater made of Alu 5083 to 150° for the disinfection of plastic bottles. After 6 months we needed to revise and clean our heater due to some sort of "limescale" formation. It only occurs at the beginning of the heater (I guess before evaporation).

Can someone help me figur out what this is?

Thanks in advance!
 

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I'm guessing that you're diluting the peroxide with water. I'm also guessing that water is 'hard.'
 
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When I see corrosion or deposition close to a junction, I suspect a step change in temperature, or an electrochemical reaction of the electrolyte, between the heater material and the feedline material.
 
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As with the two previous posts, I was thinking that the oxide looks like porous alumina, but it could also may involve whatever cations are present in the water. Ideally one would be using demineralized water with little Mg, Ca, Si, which could cause formation of MgO, CaO, SiO2, among others. Porosity/cracking of the oxide reduces/compromises the protective/passive nature.

Besides water chemistry, the other issue is the solubility, a function of temperature. What is the inlet temperature of the peroxide solution?

Thermal cycling could be another issue, related to the other two factors. Oxides of metals and the metals tend to have differences in thermal expansion. If the thermal expansion of hte metal is greater than the oxide, then thermal cycling can cause microcracking of the protective oxide.
 
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Thanks for the response!
The inlet temperature is around 20 degrees.

My view is that it could be Al2O3. Aluminium has a small layer of Al2O3 by contact with air. It can only occur with h2o2 in liquid phase, which is what would explain why it’s only at the beginning of the heater. By corrosion and a strong oxidation with h2o2, Al2O3 will keep on growing.

What do you think?
 
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If it's Al2O3, there should be serious pitting / material loss on the your aluminum substrate.
 
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TomD1 said:
Hi,

In our production line we are heating h2o2 in a heater made of Alu 5083 to 150° for the disinfection of plastic bottles. After 6 months we needed to revise and clean our heater due to some sort of "limescale" formation. It only occurs at the beginning of the heater (I guess before evaporation).

Can someone help me figur out what this is?

Thanks in advance!
Is it more of a chalky powder, or is it a hard, somewhat tough deposit? If it’s the latter, I’m inclined towards it being hard water deposits. If it’s the former, accompanied by pitting of the aluminum part, it’s corrosion of the part.
 

FAQ: H2O2 35% on Al 5083 at 150° gives 'limescale'

What is H2O2 35% and why is it used on Al 5083?

H2O2 35% refers to a concentrated solution of hydrogen peroxide, which is a powerful oxidizing agent. It is often used in various industrial applications, including cleaning and etching metals like aluminum. When applied to Al 5083, a marine-grade aluminum alloy, H2O2 can help remove contaminants and prepare the surface for further processing.

What does 'limescale' refer to in this context?

'Limescale' typically refers to a hard, chalky deposit that can form on surfaces when water evaporates and leaves behind minerals, primarily calcium carbonate. In the context of H2O2 treatment on Al 5083, limescale may refer to the formation of similar deposits due to the reaction of hydrogen peroxide with impurities or the aluminum surface itself.

Why does H2O2 35% at 150° lead to limescale formation on Al 5083?

The high concentration of hydrogen peroxide combined with elevated temperatures can accelerate chemical reactions, leading to the breakdown of aluminum oxide and the release of metal ions. These ions can react with environmental moisture or other contaminants, forming limescale-like deposits on the aluminum surface.

How can limescale formation be prevented when using H2O2 on Al 5083?

To prevent limescale formation, it is crucial to control the concentration of H2O2 and the temperature during the treatment process. Additionally, rinsing the aluminum surface thoroughly after treatment can help remove any residual chemicals and impurities that may contribute to limescale formation.

What are the implications of limescale on Al 5083 after treatment with H2O2?

The presence of limescale can negatively affect the surface properties of Al 5083, including its appearance, corrosion resistance, and adhesion characteristics. It may also complicate subsequent processing steps, such as painting or coating, leading to reduced performance and durability of the final product.

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