Heat exchange after thermal equilibrium

In summary, the conversation discusses the exchange of energy between three systems, A, B, and C. Initially, A and B are separated by an adiabatic wall while each exchanges energy with C through a diathermic wall. Once A and B reach thermal equilibrium with C, they are allowed to exchange energy through a diathermic wall, while energy exchange between A and C and B and C is prevented by an adiabatic wall. The 0th law of thermodynamics states that systems in thermal equilibrium should not exchange heat energy, but this can happen in certain circumstances, such as with expandable ideal gas systems at different pressures joined by a movable piston through a diathermic wall. The conversation also mentions that while
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Can there be any heat exchange between two systems that are in thermal equilibrium?
In screenshot below, systems A and B are separated by an adiabatic wall initially while each of them exchanges energy with system C via a diathermic wall. Once A and B reach thermal equilibrium with C, then A,B are allowed energy exchange via a diathermic wall, and energy exchange between A and C as well as B and C is prevented by using an adiabatic wall.

To my knowledge systems that are in thermal equilibrium should not exchange heat energy. Is this true or they could exchange heat depending on circumstances? May be expandable ideal gas systems at different pressures and joined by a common diathermic movable piston could exchange heat as the piston moves from high pressure side moves towards the lower pressure side.

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The 0th law of thermodynamics states that if A is in thermal equilibrium with C and B is in thermal equilibrium with C, then A is in thermal equilibrium with B. My guess is that the figure is used to illustrate this principle.

Note that while there is no net exchange of heat energy between two systems in equilibrium (2nd law), there are energy fluctuations (A and B will exchange energy back and forth, and this averages to 0). For a large enough system (or in the thermodynamic limit), these fluctuations are too small to be measured.
 
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DrClaude said:
My guess is that the figure is used to illustrate this principle.
Yes, this was a diagram used to explain Zeroth Law of Thermodynamics in the textbook.

Thankyou for the detailed answer. It's clear to me now.
 

FAQ: Heat exchange after thermal equilibrium

What happens to heat exchange after thermal equilibrium is reached?

After thermal equilibrium is reached, there is no net heat exchange between the objects involved. This is because the temperatures of the objects are equal, and heat flows only from regions of higher temperature to regions of lower temperature.

Can thermal equilibrium be disturbed, and if so, how?

Yes, thermal equilibrium can be disturbed if there is an external influence such as a change in the surrounding temperature, the addition of a heat source or sink, or a change in the physical state of one of the objects (e.g., melting or evaporation).

Is thermal equilibrium a permanent state?

Thermal equilibrium is not necessarily a permanent state. It can be maintained as long as there are no external changes affecting the system. However, any external disturbance can shift the system away from equilibrium.

Does thermal equilibrium imply that all parts of a system are at the same temperature?

Yes, thermal equilibrium implies that all parts of the system are at the same temperature. This uniform temperature ensures that there is no net heat flow within the system or between the system and its surroundings.

How can we measure if a system has reached thermal equilibrium?

To measure if a system has reached thermal equilibrium, you can use thermometers or temperature sensors to check if the temperatures of all parts of the system are the same and remain constant over time. If there are no temperature differences, the system is in thermal equilibrium.

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