Help with sigma notation where the top value is x?

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The discussion focuses on solving the sigma notation problem Σ 2i from i=1 to x, where x is an integer between -6 and 6, and the goal is to find when the sum equals 12. Participants clarify that the sum involves calculating 2 times each integer from 1 to x and stopping when the total reaches 12. It is noted that using 'x' for both multiplication and as a variable can cause confusion, and alternatives for multiplication notation are suggested. The conversation emphasizes the need to understand the problem before attempting solutions, with brute-force checking of values being one possible method. Ultimately, the key is to determine which integer value of x satisfies the equation.
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Homework Statement



In each case, x is an integer between -6 and 6 inclusive.

Homework Equations



x
Σ 2i =12
i=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2x1 = 12 + 2x2 = 12 +...+2x(x) = 12
 
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I surmise you to be saying x is an integer and lies somewhere between -6 and +6. Correct?

So I'd read it as the sum of all terms, 2*i
for all integer values i starting from 1 and stepping through to x
but stopping when that sum equals 12.

Sure, you don't initially know the value of x, but it's the only unknown in the puzzle, so you can discover what value it must have, readily enough.

BTW, it is not a good idea to use the character 'x' for both multiplication and the unknown in the same line! There are plenty of alternatives to choose from. 2(1) + 2(2) + ...
is as good as any. But if you can find a typeface with a large dot that sits well above where decimal points get positioned, then (preferably where there are no decimal points) you can use that large dot to denote multiplication. Or on the web, you can simply use an
asterisk.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
I surmise you to be saying x is an integer and lies somewhere between -6 and +6. Correct?

So I'd read it as the sum of all terms, 2*i
for all integer values i starting from 1 and stepping through to x
but stopping when that sum equals 12.

hmm? i genuinely have no idea of what you said..
 
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rkell48 said:

Homework Statement



In each case, x is an integer between -6 and 6 inclusive.

Homework Equations



x
Σ 2i =12
i=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2x1 = 12 + 2x2 = 12 +...+2x(x) = 12

When x = 0 we are summing 2*i for i from 1 to zero, so get 2*1 + 2*0 = 2.
When x = 4 we are summing 2*i for i from 1 to 4, so we get 2*1 + 2*2 + 2*3 + 2*4 = 20, etc. When x = -5 we are summing 2*i for i going from 1 to -5, so we get 2*1 + 2*0 + 2*(-1) + 2*(-2) + 2*(-3) + 2*(-4) + 2*(-5). So, for any integer x between -6 and 6 you can do the sum, and you want to find out which x (if any) leads to a sum = 12. You could do it by a brute-force approach, trying every x, but there are quicker ways. However, the first step is to understand what the question is asking.

RGV
 
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