How can a potential depending on velocities give equal and opposite forces?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a potential dependent on particle velocities, as outlined in Goldstein's classical mechanics. It suggests that while forces can still be equal and opposite, they may not align along the direct line between particles, challenging traditional interpretations of action and reaction. The distinction is made between weak and strong forms of the action-reaction law, with the former being satisfied under certain conditions. Clarification is provided that the potential's dependence on vector differences allows for this scenario. Ultimately, the participants reach an understanding of the authors' intent regarding the nature of these forces.
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On page 10 of Goldstein's classical mechanics, it was said:

"If V_{jj} were also a function of the difference of some other pair of vectors associated with the particles, such as their velocities or (to step into the domain of modern physics) their intrinsic "spin" angular momenta, then the forces would still be equal and opposite, but would not necessarily lie along the direction between the particles."

What does this mean? IMO if a potential is dependent on velocities, the forces derived typically will not respect any aspects of the law of action and reaction. Why would they still be equal and opposite?
 
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sadness said:
On page 10 of Goldstein's classical mechanics, it was said:

"If V_{jj} were also a function of the difference of some other pair of vectors associated with the particles, such as their velocities or (to step into the domain of modern physics) their intrinsic "spin" angular momenta, then the forces would still be equal and opposite, but would not necessarily lie along the direction between the particles."

What does this mean? IMO if a potential is dependent on velocities, the forces derived typically will not respect any aspects of the law of action and reaction. Why would they still be equal and opposite?

The point is that the book precises V_{jj} being function of the difference of some vector associated to the particles, that is not generally of velocities for instance as you say, but for differences of them in such a way that (1.33) still holds but not (1.34), when now the dependence is not just of the relative position and the forces not central, as mentioned in page 7. Then this weak action-reaction law is satisfied, but not the "strong".
 
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The point is that the book precises V_{jj} being function of the difference of some vector associated to the particles, that is not generally of velocities for instance as you say, but for differences of them in such a way that (1.33) still holds but not (1.34), when now the dependence is not just of the relative position and the forces not central, as mentioned in page 7. Then this weak action-reaction law is satisfied, but not the "strong".

Thanks. I understood what the authors meant now.
 
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