How Do Unmagnetized Ferromagnetic Materials React in Magnetic Fields?

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Unmagnetized ferromagnetic materials, like iron, react to magnetic fields by becoming temporarily magnetized, which allows them to be attracted to magnets. This behavior occurs because the magnetic field aligns the orbits of electrons within the material, causing the forces to act in the same direction. While the Lorentz force equations describe forces on moving charges, they do not fully explain the magnetization process in ferromagnetic materials. The alignment of electron orbits in ferromagnetic materials leads to a net force that enables them to be picked up by magnets. Understanding this interaction is essential for applications involving magnetic fields and ferromagnetic materials.
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I'm wondering about general magnetic forces, specifically the behavior of unmagnetized ferromagnetic materials in a magnetic field. I.e., a simple bar or electromagnet picking up an unmagnetized piece of iron.
Are there formulas to explain this behavior? The lorenz force equations by themselves don't help me here.
 
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MonkeysPass said:
I'm wondering about general magnetic forces, specifically the behavior of unmagnetized ferromagnetic materials in a magnetic field. I.e., a simple bar or electromagnet picking up an unmagnetized piece of iron.
Are there formulas to explain this behavior? The lorenz force equations by themselves don't help me here.

I don't know the formulas for the force exerted, if that's what you want, but I can explain why it happens. The iron becomes temporarily magnetized by the magnetic field, so it's (temporarily) like two magnets pulling on each other.

This is sort of analogous to the way dispersion works for electrostatic forces (i.e. rubbing a balloon to make it charged and then sticking it to the uncharged wall).
 
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MonkeysPass said:
I'm wondering about general magnetic forces, specifically the behavior of unmagnetized ferromagnetic materials in a magnetic field. I.e., a simple bar or electromagnet picking up an unmagnetized piece of iron.
Are there formulas to explain this behavior? The lorenz force equations by themselves don't help me here.

A magnetic field, of course, only exerts a force on moving objects.

The moving objects in the material are electrons in circular orbits.

The magnetic field exerts a force on each orbiting electron. And this is the Lorentz force

In most materials, the orbits are at random (and stay that way), so the forces are also random, and cancel out on average.

But for some materials (ferromagnetic, etc), the orbits align, and the forces all act in the same direction, and so the material moves. :wink:
 
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