How Does Observer Velocity Affect Sound Wavefront Frequency?

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The discussion focuses on how an observer's velocity affects the frequency of sound waves they perceive. When the observer moves away from the sound source at 40 m/s, the observed frequency decreases according to the Doppler effect, calculated using f' = (u/(u + vobs)) * fsource. The number of wavefronts arriving per unit time, or dN/dt, corresponds to the observed frequency. There is some confusion about the relevance of the distance from the source and whether additional information about the observer's initial state is needed. Overall, the key takeaway is that the frequency observed changes due to the observer's motion, impacting the rate of wavefronts detected.
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Homework Statement


A source of sound emits waves at a frequency f 450 Hz. An observer is located at a distance d 150 m from the source. If the observer is moving away from the source at a velocity vobs 40 m/s, how does the number of wavefronts change with time? dN/dt ? (in Hz)


Homework Equations


λ=u/f
N=d/λ
u - speed of sound


The Attempt at a Solution


with moving observer my frequency changes. f'=(u/u+vobs)*fsource
λ'=u/(u/u+vobs)*fsource)=(u+vobs)/f

in time Δt, ΔN=(d+vobsΔt)/λ' - d/λ'

then I find a limit for Δt>0 lim ΔN/Δt= dN/dt

Am I on the right way?
 
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1 wavefront arrives per cycle.
The number of wavefronts that arrive per unit time is the number of cycles per second - what quantity is measured in cycles per second?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
1 wavefront arrives per cycle.
The number of wavefronts that arrive per unit time is the number of cycles per second - what quantity is measured in cycles per second?

Just frequency? No need of all that ΔN/Δt calcs?

Then, if observer is receding f' = u/[(u+vobs)*fsource]
Is it? dN/dt = f' . Is that what you mean?
 
The number of wavefronts observed per second is the frequency of the sound observed :)

It's an odd way of asking for it though - and what does the distance to the source have to do with it?
It sounds to me like there may be some information missing from the problem statement.
Like if the observer was originally stationary and at t=0 suddenly starts moving ... then the frequency would change with time.
 
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