How Does Torque Relate to Magnetic Dipole Moment in Physics?

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The discussion centers on deriving the relationship between torque and magnetic dipole moment using the Lorentz force law. Participants seek clarification on the steps following the differentiation of the torque equation, particularly regarding the method used and its origin. The magnetic dipole moment, denoted as m, is identified as m = Ia, where I is the current and a is the area vector. The conversation emphasizes the need for a suitable expression to substitute in order to achieve the desired result. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving problems related to torque in magnetic fields.
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Homework Statement


Starting from the Lorentz force law, in the form of Fmag = ∫ I (d× B), show that the torque on any steady current distribution (not just a square loop) in a uniform field B is m × B.

Homework Equations


I looked at the solution I found in this thread here, but I don't understand the step after you take the derivative of both sides of the torque equation. Why would you use that method in the next step, and how? Where did it come from?

I have Griffiths 4ed.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is all I know how to do.
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ghoul said:

Homework Statement


Starting from the Lorentz force law, in the form of Fmag = ∫ I (d× B), show that the torque on any steady current distribution (not just a square loop) in a uniform field B is m × B.

Homework Equations


I looked at the solution I found in this thread here, but I don't understand the step after you take the derivative of both sides of the torque equation. Why would you use that method in the next step, and how? Where did it come from?

I have Griffiths 4ed.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is all I know how to do.
ubsqgCZ.jpg

Hi mister ghoul! :oldsmile:

What is ##\mathbf m##?
 
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I like Serena said:
i mister ghoul! :oldsmile:

What is ##\mathbf m##?
Hi,
I believe that m is magnetic dipole moment. m = Ia
 
ghoul said:
Hi,
I believe that m is magnetic dipole moment. m = Ia

Okay... so what is ##\mathbf a##?
We'll need some expression to substitute, which will hopefully lead to the requested result.
 
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