How harming will be this boxing or street boxing?

[TheStatutoryApe]

I agree that marital arts is the way to go if self-defense is your goal, Alex. I thought from your OP that you were just boxing for the fun and sport of it. Boxing won't teach you how to street fight.

I think that boxing is much more popular and accessible in Alex's part of the world. Not sure, just my impression.

 

[Huckleberry]

I think that boxing is much more popular and accessible in Alex's part of the world. Not sure, just my impression.

I remember seeing outdoor boxing rings along the road in Mexico City. They're like basketball courts in the US. Not sure if it's the same in other Spanish speaking countries.

 

[zomgwtf]

Perhaps it's too late already?

beat me to it! DAMNIT

 

[zomgwtf]

This guy thought he was a tough guy too. The picture quality is poor, but you'll see that the 73kg guy could have broken the arm of the 114kg guy. That arm bar ended the fight. Be a smart guy, not just a tough guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2MUZBtAwM

It kinda sucks that the quality is so low, I can't really make how who's blood is all over lol.

Anyways I completely agree. Having been in a position (just messing around) where you are on top of your opponent but they know how to properly grapple is a really bad feeling. You feel sort of like your in a dominant position but you can't do anything. Once the bodybuilder decided to try to spear him to the ground I knew the fight was over. He couldn't beat him in a normal 'boxing' type fight so he tried to throw hsi weight around in a spear... bad move... stood close to no chance once the fight was brought to the ground. This guy was a 2nd degree black belt.

@OP If your REALLY interested in fighting join a gym. Those fights that are organized by schools are unsafe. Last time I saw my friends do one of these they fought until they were both puking all over the place and bleeding like crazy. I'm pretty sure both people lost quite a few braincells during the fight. I'd suggest going to a gym that offers a variety of different martial arts... look for a MMA gym. It'll teach you how to fight well in a ring and it will, in my opinion, give you the most practical self-defense.

EDIT: AHhh I see you already mentioned Krav Maga as well. If you can handle it then I don't see why not... I don't know if you can learn KM from a gym though... not sure I've never seen it personally. I would still stick to my suggestion of MMA over KM because in Krav you are training pretty much to kill your opponent... it makes you a very dangerous person in a fight whereas in my opinion most of the other martial arts allow you to train to restrain yourself. (which is a good thing... you want to defend yourself in order to defuse the situation ... not kill the man right away lol)

 

[phyzmatix]

Hello =). Well I've been training for 5 months, now i wana test my abilities, in my high school, guys make fights of 3 minutes, with gloves and only boxing(boxing technique is what I've been training). I am physicaly feet, i have devastating punching power, so the question will be, how much brain damage will be to do this fights once in a month. I wana beocme a physicist or a an engineer so this year will be the last i do this kind of stuff.

Alex, don't do it dude. I'm sure there are other places where you can test yourself. The risks involved here are simply too great. You'll be fighting in an uncontrolled environment against people who probably have less control than you have over their punches.

I also live in the "developing world" and if things where you are are in any way similar to things over here then you have to also consider the following: Say you have a successful "friendly" fight against someone where you beat him hands down. Say this someone doesn't feel so friendly after you beat him and feels extremely humiliated because of it and decides to come after you with a knife, his friends or a gun...what then?

There is no martial art that can guarantee success against multiple or armed attackers...

Join a gym dude, do it for the fun and for the sport of it and hope you never get into a situation where you have to test your skills for real.

 

[IcedEcliptic]

Given what you say, you need to learn when to fight, and how. Krav Maga most assuredly, from a teacher with good reputation.

 

[AlexES16]

Alex, don't do it dude. I'm sure there are other places where you can test yourself. The risks involved here are simply too great. You'll be fighting in an uncontrolled environment against people who probably have less control than you have over their punches.

I also live in the "developing world" and if things where you are are in any way similar to things over here then you have to also consider the following: Say you have a successful "friendly" fight against someone where you beat him hands down. Say this someone doesn't feel so friendly after you beat him and feels extremely humiliated because of it and decides to come after you with a knife, his friends or a gun...what then?

There is no martial art that can guarantee success against multiple or armed attackers...

Join a gym dude, do it for the fun and for the sport of it and hope you never get into a situation where you have to test your skills for real.

Good point men. Thanks.

 

[AlexES16]

It kinda sucks that the quality is so low, I can't really make how who's blood is all over lol.

Anyways I completely agree. Having been in a position (just messing around) where you are on top of your opponent but they know how to properly grapple is a really bad feeling. You feel sort of like your in a dominant position but you can't do anything. Once the bodybuilder decided to try to spear him to the ground I knew the fight was over. He couldn't beat him in a normal 'boxing' type fight so he tried to throw hsi weight around in a spear... bad move... stood close to no chance once the fight was brought to the ground. This guy was a 2nd degree black belt.

@OP If your REALLY interested in fighting join a gym. Those fights that are organized by schools are unsafe. Last time I saw my friends do one of these they fought until they were both puking all over the place and bleeding like crazy. I'm pretty sure both people lost quite a few braincells during the fight. I'd suggest going to a gym that offers a variety of different martial arts... look for a MMA gym. It'll teach you how to fight well in a ring and it will, in my opinion, give you the most practical self-defense.

EDIT: AHhh I see you already mentioned Krav Maga as well. If you can handle it then I don't see why not... I don't know if you can learn KM from a gym though... not sure I've never seen it personally. I would still stick to my suggestion of MMA over KM because in Krav you are training pretty much to kill your opponent... it makes you a very dangerous person in a fight whereas in my opinion most of the other martial arts allow you to train to restrain yourself. (which is a good thing... you want to defend yourself in order to defuse the situation ... not kill the man right away lol)

I sparred in boxing and the blows in sparring are very hard, and i think i recive more damage in a gym than a 2 minute fight in a year.

 

[phyzmatix]

I sparred in boxing and the blows in sparring are very hard, and i think i recive more damage in a gym than a 2 minute fight in a year.

If you really want a system for use in self-defense only, then I agree with some of the previous posts. Try Krav Maga or any other reality-based martial art (there's also Systema and Modern Military Combatives amongst others). They aren't sport-oriented though and do exactly what the name implies: reality-based scenario's. The techniques and skills focus mostly on defending against the most common street attacks.

If you'd like to try something that is very well-regulated as a sport (i.e. very safe to practise), but that also makes for plenty of opportunity to test your skills in competition as well as offer you a certain measure of defense on the street, then perhaps you should try Judo.

Just a thought

 

[IcedEcliptic]

If you really want a system for use in self-defense only, then I agree with some of the previous posts. Try Krav Maga or any other reality-based martial art (there's also Systema and Modern Military Combatives amongst others). They aren't sport-oriented though and do exactly what the name implies: reality-based scenario's. The techniques and skills focus mostly on defending against the most common street attacks.

If you'd like to try something that is very well-regulated as a sport (i.e. very safe to practise), but that also makes for plenty of opportunity to test your skills in competition as well as offer you a certain measure of defense on the street, then perhaps you should try Judo.

Just a thought

There is also the Modern Method of pistol shooting, which is very effective, but what is the verse, "They sow the wind and they reap the whirlwind," so it is with violence. You may win a fight, but lose a war.

 

[phyzmatix]

There is also the Modern Method of pistol shooting, which is very effective, but what is the verse, "They sow the wind and they reap the whirlwind," so it is with violence. You may win a fight, but lose a war.

Is this the same thing as combat shooting? I'm personally a bit weary of your average person carrying a firearm in public, sidearms tend to make their bearers arrogant and cocksure...Also, that quote of yours is very relevant.

 

[IcedEcliptic]

Is this the same thing as combat shooting? I'm personally a bit weary of your average person carrying a firearm in public, sidearms tend to make their bearers arrogant and cocksure...Also, that quote of yours is very relevant.

Yes, Weaver Stance instead of Point Shooting and more. I agree that carrying a firearm is a mixed bag, with people who believe it is a weapon that can be used as a threat, often being harmed. The old saying, "you do not point a gun at anything you are not willing to kill/destroy," is also relevant. Pulling a gun should be the action which immediately precedes an attempt to kill the target, anything short of lethal action must not involve a gun.

For the proverb, I find it is very useful as well. Sometimes it is hard to remember that violence is only one solution, which often leads to more violence. Shoot a man for taking these pictures of a girl, or beat him, and maybe you win the day? What is to happen when this man and his friends recover? Will they try to kill you, or perhaps they come after the girl. "The easiest fight to win is the fight you do not have."

 

[General_Sax]

I think things would most likely be fine, but if you really want to test yourself, you should go to a gym.

How tough do you have to be to wing some wild shots with you eyes closed? That is what most of these "backyard boxing" matches devolve into.

Go to the gym and learn how to fight like a man, then you can be proud.

As for brain dammage, I wouldn't worry about that too much. Most fighters who suffer brain dammage have been fighting for 10+ years, and have taken hundreds of punches to the head in single fights, on multiple occasions. A couple school age scraps -- in the ring -- should be fine.

If you do feel the need for the "backyard boxing", make sure you fight on a grassy area that is clear of all rocks. NEVER fight on concrete -- if someone is knocked out they can easily fall and crack their head open.

Don't learn how to box so that you can street fight. A street fight is not a boxing match, it's a brutish sort of violence unrestrained by sportsmanship and fairness. Boxing may prepare you tactically for a street fight (you'll know how to throw a punch), but will leave you unprepared for the strategic elements of a street fight (you're actually going to be fighting 10 of these guys).

main point: Join a boxing gym.

 

[AlexES16]

I think things would most likely be fine, but if you really want to test yourself, you should go to a gym.

How tough do you have to be to wing some wild shots with you eyes closed? That is what most of these "backyard boxing" matches devolve into.

Go to the gym and learn how to fight like a man, then you can be proud.

As for brain dammage, I wouldn't worry about that too much. Most fighters who suffer brain dammage have been fighting for 10+ years, and have taken hundreds of punches to the head in single fights, on multiple occasions. A couple school age scraps -- in the ring -- should be fine.

If you do feel the need for the "backyard boxing", make sure you fight on a grassy area that is clear of all rocks. NEVER fight on concrete -- if someone is knocked out they can easily fall and crack their head open.

Don't learn how to box so that you can street fight. A street fight is not a boxing match, it's a brutish sort of violence unrestrained by sportsmanship and fairness. Boxing may prepare you tactically for a street fight (you'll know how to throw a punch), but will leave you unprepared for the strategic elements of a street fight (you're actually going to be fighting 10 of these guys).

main point: Join a boxing gym.

Yeah i mean how much really brain damage you get of one sparring session, i don't think is to much, even if its full force.

 

[AlexES16]

When I think of "Physics" and "Boxing," I think ofhttp://www.conceptualphysics.com/pghewitt.shtml" .

Make of it what you will. I don't like the sport myself, but I also don't like to judge, and Paul Hewitt may just be the most important Physics educator of the last half-century.

Former boxer, men that's nice, so he must have recived some blows to the head and he is not dumb, and not even going to be a boxer, just round and that's all. Thank you men.

 

[Cyrus]

This is the worst idea I have ever heard, Alex. I don't think you have any idea how dangerous backyard fights can be.

 

[IcedEcliptic]

This is the worst idea I have ever heard, Alex. I don't think you have any idea how dangerous backyard fights can be.

There is a reason that it is young men fighting after all, sense of immortality, lack of understanding of the long term consequences, and little concept that you can paralyze, kill, or otherwise main a "friend". Break a rib, or orbit, and you can lose a lung or an eye. Kidney punches or liver shots, all dangerous. Some people drive fast, some people drink, some people get into fights. Common thread: young people.

 

[Boxerguy000]

Backyard boxing can be more dangerous than a street fight. I know just how dangerous it can be as I have participated in them and my opponents get a little carried away and punched wildly and furiously. I suggest that you do your boxing at a gym and in a controlled environment for safety sake. In lots of backyard action there are no rules, and people tend to want to hurt their opponent instead of just enjoying a little friendly boxing action.

 

[WiFO215]

Alex,
If self-defense is what you want, then learn to run the four minute mile. They'll have to catch you first before they can throw a punch!

 

[AlexES16]

Well let's put it this way. 1 month of hard sparring in boxing. Or let's put it this way, 1 minute of sparring a month?.