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StatGuy2000
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russ_watters said:Well, Rick said she's a world class athlete and then you apparently read him saying that she's not a world class athlete. So it looked pretty clear to me that you were seeing something that wasn't there:What was written and what you read seem to me to be exact opposites of each other.
Quite frankly, I tend to be suspicious of such discussions too and I'm not really sure what the OP is after here, but Rick did have a valid point as to RR's place:
RR is a world-class athlete in a sport that has very thin competition and as such, it is difficult to judge her beyond the limited sample of what we've seen. At their best, Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan were head and shoulders above their competition in well-developed, highly competitive sports. But for RR, the lack of competition makes it difficult to judge just how good she is. Yeah, she's head and shoulders above everyone else, but how much of that is her being great and how much is nobody else being any good? I don't know. A similar phenomena exists for women's hockey, where it is the US and Canada and then everybody (nobody) else. But hey, men also have thin sports. Apropos: boxing.
russ, my response to Rick's comments is related to the following (with bolded emphasis from me):
"The thing is, Rhonda is not even a GREAT fighter. The social justice warriors are hyping her up as this unstoppable force that can crush anyone, including guys and it's just not even close. Her judo is world class but her striking is terrible and, unfortunately, there just aren't any other females out there yet to compete at that level."
So it reads and sounds to me that Rick is saying that she's not a world-class athlete, in spite of his praise of her judo skills. So my reading is not unjustified, at least IMHO.
I am in agreement with you otherwise that RR is a world-class athlete in a sport with a limited # of participants, so it is difficult to judge her capabilities beyond the limited sample available.
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