MHB How to Find the Volume of a Tetrahedron?

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To find the volume of tetrahedron ABCD with given dimensions and angles, the discussion begins by establishing the vectors for points A, B, C, and D. The relationships between the vectors are defined, leading to the calculation of the scalar triple product. By simplifying the problem with the assumption that vector A is at the origin, the volume formula is applied. Ultimately, the volume of the tetrahedron is calculated to be 1/2. The discussion concludes with appreciation for the collaborative effort in solving the problem.
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Problem:
Suppose in a tetrahedron ABCD, AB=1; CD=$\sqrt{3}$; the distance and the angle between the skew lines AB and CD are 2 and $\pi/3$ respectively. Find the volume of tetrahedron.

Attempt:
Let the points A,B,C and D be represented by the vectors $\vec{a}, \vec{b}, \vec{c}$ and $\vec{d}$ respectively. Then, as per the question, I have:
$$\left|\vec{b}-\vec{a}\right|=1$$
$$\left|\vec{d}-\vec{c}\right|=\sqrt{3}$$
The line AB can be represented as $\vec{r}=\vec{a}+\lambda (\vec{b}-\vec{a})$ and the line CD can be represented by $\vec{r}=\vec{c}+\mu (\vec{d}-\vec{c})$ where $\lambda$ and $\mu$ are scalars. The angle ($\theta$) between the two lines is given by:
$$\cos\theta=\frac{(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\cdot (\vec{d}-\vec{c})}{\left|\vec{b}-\vec{a}\right| \left|\vec{d}-\vec{c}\right|}$$
$$\Rightarrow \frac{1}{2}=\frac{(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\cdot (\vec{d}-\vec{c})}{\sqrt{3}}$$
$$\Rightarrow (\vec{b}-\vec{a})\cdot (\vec{d}-\vec{c})=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}$$
The distance between the two lines is 2 so I have the following relation:
$$\left|\frac{(\vec{a}-\vec{c})\cdot ((\vec{b}-\vec{a})\times (\vec{d}-\vec{c})}{\left|(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\times(\vec{d}-\vec{c})\right|}\right|=2$$
$$\Rightarrow \left|\left[\vec{a}-\vec{c}\,\,\,\, \vec{b}-\vec{a}\,\,\,\, \vec{d}-\vec{c}\right]\right|=3$$

I am clueless about the next step. :confused:

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav said:
Problem:
Suppose in a tetrahedron ABCD, AB=1; CD=$\sqrt{3}$; the distance and the angle between the skew lines AB and CD are 2 and $\pi/3$ respectively. Find the volume of tetrahedron.

Attempt:
Let the points A,B,C and D be represented by the vectors $\vec{a}, \vec{b}, \vec{c}$ and $\vec{d}$ respectively. Then, as per the question, I have:
$$\left|\vec{b}-\vec{a}\right|=1$$
$$\left|\vec{d}-\vec{c}\right|=\sqrt{3}$$
The line AB can be represented as $\vec{r}=\vec{a}+\lambda (\vec{b}-\vec{a})$ and the line CD can be represented by $\vec{r}=\vec{c}+\mu (\vec{d}-\vec{c})$ where $\lambda$ and $\mu$ are scalars. The angle ($\theta$) between the two lines is given by:
$$\cos\theta=\frac{(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\cdot (\vec{d}-\vec{c})}{\left|\vec{b}-\vec{a}\right| \left|\vec{d}-\vec{c}\right|}$$
$$\Rightarrow \frac{1}{2}=\frac{(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\cdot (\vec{d}-\vec{c})}{\sqrt{3}}$$
$$\Rightarrow (\vec{b}-\vec{a})\cdot (\vec{d}-\vec{c})=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}$$
The distance between the two lines is 2 so I have the following relation:
$$\left|\frac{(\vec{a}-\vec{c})\cdot ((\vec{b}-\vec{a})\times (\vec{d}-\vec{c})}{\left|(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\times(\vec{d}-\vec{c})\right|}\right|=2$$
$$\Rightarrow \left|\left[\vec{a}-\vec{c}\,\,\,\, \vec{b}-\vec{a}\,\,\,\, \vec{d}-\vec{c}\right]\right|=3$$

I am clueless about the next step. :confused:

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Hey Pranav! ;)

Shall we pick $\vec a = \vec 0$?
That makes those formulas a bit easier.

Do you also have a formula for the volume of a tetrahedron in terms of those vectors?
 
I like Serena said:
Hey Pranav! ;)

Shall we pick $\vec a = \vec 0$?
That makes those formulas a bit easier.
Completely agreed and I seem to have reached the answer too because of that. :)

Let $\vec{a}=0$. So the formulas I posted above becomes:
$$\left|\vec{b}\right|=1$$
and
$$\left|\left[\vec{c} \vec{b} \vec{d}-\vec{c}\right]\right|=3$$
The above scalar triple product is same as:
$$\left|\left[\vec{c} \vec{b} \vec{d}\right]\right|=3$$
Do you also have a formula for the volume of a tetrahedron in terms of those vectors?
Yes. The volume of tetrahedron in the given case is:
$$V=\frac{1}{6}\left|\left[\vec{c}-\vec{a} \vec{b}-\vec{a} \vec{d}-\vec{a}\right]\right|$$
But since we let $\vec{a}=0$, the above formula becomes:
$$V=\frac{1}{6}\left|\left[\vec{c} \vec{b} \vec{d}\right]\right|=\frac{3}{6}=\frac{1}{2}$$
which is the correct answer.

Thanks a lot ILS! :)
 
Pranav said:
...which is the correct answer.

Thanks a lot ILS! :)

Thank you for taking the time to show how the help given allowed you to resolve the question! (Yes)
 
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