Intermolecular Bonding: Hydrogen vs. Ion-Dipole Bond

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The discussion centers on comparing hydrogen bonds and ion-dipole bonds, emphasizing that the strength of these interactions can vary depending on specific situations. Generally, hydrogen bonds are associated with lower binding energies compared to ion-dipole bonds. Participants are encouraged to explore scenarios where both types of bonding can be compared under similar conditions to better understand their relative strengths. It is noted that certain compounds may favor one type of bonding over the other, indicating that the preferred bond is typically the stronger one. The conversation also touches on the idea that atoms and compounds strive to minimize instability, influencing their bonding preferences. Overall, the complexity of these interactions suggests that while there may be general rules, specific contexts are crucial for accurate comparisons.
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What is the most powerful bond? Hydrogen bond or Ion-dipole bond?
 
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That will depend on the situations you are comparing and why it matters.

Can you come up with a situation where either may happen but everything else is the same so you can compare apples with apples?

I think, generally, hydrogen bonding involves the smaller binding energies, but I'd like to encourage you to explore the concepts and form your own ideas.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Can you come up with a situation where either may happen but everything else is the same so you can compare apples with apples?

So it's with the situation where you have to decide what's stronger relying on other facts. :D Thanks!
 
Sometimes you can compare forces based on the constants ... which is how we can say that the strong nuclear force is, well, strong. The interactions you are interested in are all electromagnetic and it looks like they can be roughly the same order of magnitude ...

Some compounds will prefer one form of bonding over the other right? ... the preferred bonding is the stronger.
If chemists have a rule of thumb to anticipate which, I don't know it.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Some compounds will prefer one form of bonding over the other right? ... the preferred bonding is the stronger.
If chemists have a rule of thumb to anticipate which, I don't know it.

As atoms and compounds are always trying to minimize the instability!

I guess other theories behind that are too much for me. I'm doing ALs. :) So I guess I won't be getting such in my MCQ paper! :D Thanks again!
 
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