Is Every Function with Equal Lower and Upper Sums Constant?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a function $f$ with the identity $L(f,P)=U(f,P)$ for any partition $P$ of $[a,b]$, and shows that if $L(f,P)=U(f,P)$, then $f$ is a constant. The conversation also mentions picking a partition of 2 points and using this to show that $f(x)=c$. It is confirmed that this approach is valid and the conversation ends with a question about other possible partitions.
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Hello! :rolleyes:

Let $f:[a,b] \to \mathbb{R}$ function with the identity:
$$L(f,P)=U(f,P), \text{ for any partition } P \text{ of } [a,b]$$

Show that $f$ is a constant.

Can I do it like that?

We pick for the interval $[a,b]$ a partition of $2$ points: $P=\{a=x_0,x_1=b\}$

Then,it is like that: $L(f,P)=(b-a)inf([a,b]) \text{ and } U(f,P)=(b-a)supf([a,b])$

Since we know that $L(f,P)=U(f,P) \Rightarrow inf([a,b])=supf([a,b])=c \Rightarrow f(x)=c$
 
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Yes, that looks good. (Yes)
 
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Opalg said:
Yes, that looks good. (Yes)

Nice..Thank you! :)
 
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Opalg said:
Yes, that looks good. (Yes)

Is this partition the only possible that I could take? (Thinking)
 
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for all $x \in [a,b]$

Yes, you can approach it like that. Another way to prove that $f$ is a constant is by contradiction. Assume that $f$ is not a constant, then there exist $x,y \in [a,b]$ such that $f(x) \neq f(y)$. Without loss of generality, let's say $f(x) < f(y)$. Then, we can choose a partition $P$ such that $x \in [x_0,x_1]$ and $y \in [x_1,x_2]$, where $x_0,x_1,x_2$ are points in the partition. Since $f$ is continuous, it must attain its maximum and minimum values on $[x_0,x_1]$ and $[x_1,x_2]$ respectively. But this contradicts the fact that $L(f,P)=U(f,P)$, since $L(f,P)$ will be strictly less than $U(f,P)$. Therefore, our assumption that $f$ is not a constant must be false, and thus $f$ is a constant.
 

FAQ: Is Every Function with Equal Lower and Upper Sums Constant?

How can you prove that f is a constant?

In order to prove that f is a constant, we need to show that its value remains the same, regardless of the independent variable. This can be done by taking the derivative of f and showing that it is equal to zero, indicating a constant value.

What is the significance of showing that f is a constant?

If f is a constant, it means that its value does not change with respect to the independent variable. This can be useful in various fields of science, such as physics and engineering, where it is important to know the relationship between different variables.

What are the common methods used to show that f is a constant?

One common method is to take the derivative of f and show that it is equal to zero. Another method is to use the limit definition of a derivative and show that the limit approaches a constant value as the independent variable approaches any value.

Can f be a constant for all values of the independent variable?

Yes, f can be a constant for all values of the independent variable. This means that the value of f remains the same regardless of the value of the independent variable, indicating a direct or proportional relationship between the two variables.

How does proving that f is a constant differ from proving that f is a linear function?

Proving that f is a constant means showing that its value does not change with respect to the independent variable, while proving that f is a linear function means showing that it follows a specific equation of the form y = mx + b. A constant function is a special case of a linear function with a slope of 0.

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