Is This Projectile Range Equation Correct for Different Altitudes?

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The discussion focuses on deriving an equation for the horizontal range of a projectile when the landing point is at a different altitude than the launch point. The initial equations provided include the horizontal and vertical motion equations, which are manipulated to express the relationship between horizontal range, launch angle, initial velocity, and vertical displacement. The user successfully derives a formula that relates these variables but seeks clarification on isolating the horizontal range. The feedback suggests that while the algebra is correct, the user should focus on expressing the horizontal range as a function of the initial speed, angle, and vertical height. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of the derivation and the importance of correctly substituting variables to achieve the desired equation.
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Homework Statement


Derive an equation for the horizontal range of a projectile with a landing point at a different altitude from its launch point. Write the equation in terms of the initial velocity, the acceleration due to gravity, the launch angle, and the vertical component of the displacement. Please check to see if it is correct!
I tried to make the formulas as realistic as possible.

p.s. the "/" tend's to mean a fraction. a/b = a/b

Homework Equations



x = vcosΘt, t = v/cosΘ (1)

y = vsinΘt - 1/2 gt2 (2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Solving (1) for t and substituting this expression in (2) gives:

y = xtanΘ - (gx2/2v2cos2Θ)

y = xtanΘ - (gx2sec2Θ/2v2) ...(Trig. identity)

y = xtanΘ - (gx2/2v2) * (1+tan2Θ) ...(Trig. identity)

0 = (-gx2/2v2 * tan2Θ) + xtanΘ - (gx2/2v2) - y ...(Algebra)

Let p = tanΘ​

0 = (-gx2/2v2 * p2) + xp - (gx2/2v2) - y ...(Substitution)

p = -x ± √{ x2 - 4(-gx2/2v2)(-gx2/2v2 -y)} ...(Quadratic formula)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2 (-gx2/2v2)

p = v2 ± √{ v4 - g(gx2 + 2yv2)} ...(Algebra)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gx

tanΘ = v2 ± √{ v4 - g(gx2 + 2yv2)} ...(Substitution)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gx

Θ = tan-1 [v2 ± √{ v4 - g(gx2 + 2yv2)}]
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,gx
 
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Your algebra all looks good! But it seems to me you are asked to find x as a function of the initial speed, angle and y. That would mean starting with x = vt*cos(theta) and trying to solve the y equation for t in order to eliminate t in the expression for x.
 
Hmm. I see, I guess I just started solving for anything else.
Do you have any suggestions how I can do this? or how it looks like?
 
Let the desired horizontal range be h while the corresponding vertical height is k. We have:

h= v_{0}\cos(\theta)t \iff t = \frac{h}{v_{0}\cos(\theta)} \, *

And

k = v_{0}\sin(\theta)t + \frac{1}{2} g t^{2}

Use the substitution given by (*) to get:

k = v_{0}\sin(\theta) \left( \frac{h}{v_{0}\cos(\theta)} \right) + \frac{1}{2} g \left( \frac{h}{v_{0}\cos(\theta)} \right)^{2}

k = \tan(\theta)h + \frac{gh^{2}\sec^{2}(\theta)}{2v^{2}_{0}}

This is as far as you need to go since you have a relationship in terms of all the variables asked for in the question. It might be possible to isolate h in the equation, though I have no idea how it would be done.
 
Whew.. all that work for nothing.
Thanks mate!
 
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