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SpectraCat
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Dotini said:I personally am not arguing for a designer or fine-tuning. I'm more concerned about multiverses, and I can see that the apparent trend in most levels of physics is to accept the multiverse in order that the universe not be non-random. Fine-tuning is evidently a strong argument for some highly regarded scientists. I sincerely want you to win this argument, but be aware that you're up against Stephen Hawking and a well-accepted fine tuning science literature.
My recollection is that Hawking supports the WAP, rather than the SAP, and does not support fine-tuning in the sense of being due to some sort of conscious entity. I believe his view can be summarized (as is consistent with the WAP) as: "We observe the universe to be as it is, because if it were different, we would likely not be here to observe it" .. i.e. the "privileged observer" hypothesis. It's been a while since I read "The Universe in a Nutshell", but I believe that in it he says he finds it *more plausible* that our universe represents just one of many "trials", rather than a singular trial that "just happened" to hit the right values.
Finally .. since this is about experimentally unverifiable interpretations of the universe, it is a level playing field, and everyone is equally entitled to their opinions. Provided that they are consistent with experimentally verifiable phenomena, it is largely irrelevant whether those opinions come from scientists, philosophers, or just some random dude you met on the street.