Proton Soup said:we also rendered people to libya's next-door neighbor, egypt. so it's hardly surprising to me.
of course, the interesting thing is how the propaganda machine spins up so easily every time the government picks a new target.
MarcoD said:...But there are also large obstacles to be overtaken...
Niger's government spokesman and Justice Minister Marou Amadou said Saadi Gaddafi was in a convoy along with eight others. Mr Amadou said the convoy was on its way to Agadez in northern Niger and that Saadi and his companions were being allowed in on humanitarian grounds.
The US has urged Niger to detain any individuals who may be sought fro prosecution by the new authorities in Tripoli and confiscate their weapons and money.
MarcoD said:The thing is that intellectuals can be conservative religious people, I think the head member studied Sharia law.
The fact that the majority of Libya is young, and for North-Africa, well-educated, doesn't mean a lot. A (humanist) democracy is the result of centuries of work. I don't expect a lot from young people who were educated under a revolutionary dictatorship (and look at other Arab nations, and get a lot wrong about western worlds).
As I stated in another thread, I am an empathic humanist. Try to explain that to a Libyan.
Of course, I will defend the right of everyone to be religious, or have their own life style, but I do find the Sharia sexist, gender discriminatory, and overly punative. (With all respect, the recognition that it has pretty normal, advanced, and morally right parts, and the acknowledgment that I know little about it.) Anyway, basing a law system on religion [where you can't opt out] to me doesn't feels like a step forward for a young population.
We can't do it, but in my heart I wouldn't mind freezing foreign Libyan accounts to press them to have no referral to Sharia in the constitution as a manner of protecting the public.
EDIT: To me it looks like the population just got fed up with the dictatorship, the revolutionary rhetoric, the fact that Gadaffi was grabbing money, and the fact that he was spending billions in Africa [instead of solving unemployment].
"We are a Muslim nation, with a moderate Islam, and we will maintain that. You are with us and support us - you are our weapon against whoever tries to hijack the revolution," he said.
But he also warned against secularism, envisaging a state "where sharia [Islamic law] is the main source for legislation".
rootX said:Jalil said it clear in his latest speech: "We are a Muslim people for a moderate Islam"
Proton Soup said:yeah, I'm pretty convinced at this point that the "crossfire" story is just a cover. (who knows the weapon caliber in a crossfire?) you're right, it is quite problematic to be claiming you want a less tribal, more democratic future, only to keep on doing business as usual.
rootX said:I thought it would more appropriate to discuss this here.
I doubt "Libya" is claiming for a more democratic future. There is NTC but then I have never come across any source determining how much influence NTC has over rebels and tribes.
Libya's interim authorities have named Tripoli academic Abdurrahim el-Keib as the new prime minister.
It also coincides with the official end of the Nato air campaign that helped overthrow the long-time leader.
Mr Keib, an academic specialising in electrical engineering and based in Tripoli, beat eight other candidates to receive 26 of the 51 votes from members of the NTC.
But Libya's competing factions - many of whom remain heavily armed - will want to be sure they get their share of the money, says our correspondent.